The Nasuverse Profiles Problem

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Shirou Kotomine

Shirou Kotomine is the Master of Assassin of Red in the Great Holy Grail War of Fate/Apocrypha and the Ruler-class Servant of the Einzbern Master‎‎ in the Third Holy Grail War. He later contracts with Caster of Red, Archer of Red, Lancer of Red, Rider of Red, and Caster of Black. Shirou's True...

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Qin Shi Huang (Fate)

Qin Shi Huang (秦始皇Qín Shǐ Huáng?), is a Ruler-class Servant summoned by Ritsuka Fujimaru in the Grand Orders of Fate/Grand Order, serving as the Third Lostbelt's, The Synchronized Intellect Nation, King. Tier: 1-C, possibly higher | 1-C, possibly higher | High 6-C, higher with The Domination...

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Demon King Nobunaga (Avenger)

Template:Nobunaga Oda (Nasuverse) Avenger (アヴェンジャー, Avenjā?) is an Avenger-Class Servant able to be summoned by Ritsuka Fujimaru in the Grand Orders of Fate/Grand Order, first appearing as ally servant in the GUDAGUDA Final Honnoji event. Avenger's true name is Oda Nobunaga (織田おだ 信長のぶなが?)...

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BB Pele

MoonCancer (ムーンキャンサー, MūnKyansā?) is a MoonCancer-class Servant able to be summoned by Ritsuka Fujimaru in the Grand Order of Fate/Grand Order, first appearing in the Servant Summer Festival event. Being the one behind the Singularity within Hawaii in the first place, BB decided to put her...

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Yu Mei-ren (Fate)

Assassin is an Assassin-class Servant appearing in the third Lostbelt, Synchronized Intellect Nation: S.I.N. Her True Name is Yu Miaoyi, the concubine of Xiang Yu during the late Qin dynasty who was shrouded in mystery and mentioned in fragments of the Records of the Grand Historian. She was...

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Avicebron (Fate)

Caster of "Black" is the Caster-class Servant of the Black Faction in the Great Holy Grail War, summoned by Roche Frain Yggdmillennia. His true name is Solomon ibn Gabirol, better known by his latinised name, Avicebron, an 11th century poet and philosopher, the father of the Kabbalah school of...

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Scáthach-Skadi

Caster (キャスター, Kyasutā?) is a Caster-class Servant appearing in the Grand Orders of Fate/Grand Order. Her True Name is Scáthach-Skaði (スカサハ・スカディ, Sukasaha Sukadi?), a fusion of Skaði, a Goddess and Jötunn of Winter, Brides and Hunting known for having married the Vanir god of seas Njörðr, and...

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Sigurd (Fate)

Saber is a Saber-class Servant who appears as an antagonist possessed by the jötunn Surtr during the second Lostbelt, Götterdämmerung. Saber's True Name is Sigurd, the King of Warriors who possessed the reforged Demonic Sword Gram in the Völsunga Saga. Described as an unparalleled hero who...

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Brynhildr (Fate)

Lancer (ランサー, Ransā?) is the Lancer-class Servant of Nigel Sayward during the First Holy Grail War. Her True Name is Brynhildr (ブリュンヒルデ, Buryunhirude?), a daughter of Odin and a goddess of war from Scandinavia, one of the Valkyries that guided heroes to Valhalla after death. After supporting a...

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Nagao Kagetora (Fate)

Lancer (ランサー, Ransā?) is an Lancer-class Servant able to be summoned by Ritsuka Fujimaru in the Grand Orders of Fate/Grand Order, first appearing as ally servant in Gudaguda Honnoji Final Event. Lancer's true name is Nagao Kagetora (長なが尾お 景虎かげとら, Nagao Kagetora?), also known as Uesugi Kenshin...

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Romulus-Quirinus (Fate)

Lancer (ランサー, Ransā?) is a Lancer-class Servant able to be summoned by Ritsuka Fujimaru in the Grand Orders of Fate/Grand Order, he also appears as the Grand Lancer in the Olympus Lostbelt. Lancer's True Name is Romulus-Quirinus (ロムルス・クィリヌス, Romurusu Kwirinusu?), the deified form of Romulus...

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Vritra (Fate)

Lancer (ランサー, Ransā?) is a Lancer-class Servant able to be summoned by Ritsuka Fujimaru in the Grand Orders of Fate/Grand Order. Lancer's True Name is Vritra (ヴリトラ, Vuritora?), the Serpentine Asura and Dragon mentioned in Rigveda and Mahabharata. Vritra serves as a direct opponent to the God...

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and this as well.

Slash Emperor

Slash Emperor (斬撃皇帝ざんげきこうてい, Zangeki Kōtei?), "The sword that consumes planets", is Ado Edem's Knight Arm, a demonic sword capable of facing the Ultimate Ones. It can be called The Embodiment of Human Nature as it destroys the planet in order to protect humans. Tier: 4-C, possibly 4-B Name...

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Rama (Fate)

Saber (セイバー, Seibā?) is one of the Servants of the Grand Orders Ritsuka Fujimaru is able to summon. He appears in E Pluribus Unum, the Fifth Singularity. His true name is Rāma (羅魔ラーマ, Rāma?), the hero of the Rāmāyana, one of Hinduism's two great epics. He is the seventh avatar of Vishnu, one of...

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Ritsuka Fujimaru (Learning with Manga!)

Ritsuka Fujimaru (藤丸ふじまる 立りつ香か, Fujimaru Ritsuka?) is the main protagonist of the official Fate/Grand Order parody, "Learning with Manga! Fate/Grand Order". She is the psychopathic parody version of the canonical Ritsuka Fujimaru's female version, invented by Riyo. Due to originating from a gag...

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Illyasviel von Einzbern (Caster)

Caster (キャスター, Kyasutā?) is a Caster-Class Servant who first appears in the Prsima Causeway event. Her True Name is Illyasviel von Einzbern (イリヤスフィール・フォン・アインツベルン, Iriyasufīru fon Aintsuberun?). Initially from a world where she was living an ordinary life as a civilian, Illya gained the power to...

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Illyasviel von Einzbern (Fate/kaleid)

Illyasviel von Einzbern, normally called Illya for short, is the main character of Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya. This version of Illya is different from her Fate/stay night counterpart in many ways. Prior to the fourth Holy Grail War, Illya was born with the knowledge to be utilized for said...

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Julian Ainsworth

Julian Ainsworth (ジュリアン・エインズワース, Jurian Einzuwāsu?), more known as Julian Ichigi (一いち義ぎ 樹じゅ理り庵あん, Ichigi Jurian?) is the current head of the Ainsworth family and a descendant of the first head, Darius Ainsworth. Due to the impending death of the World, Julian searched for various Mystic Codes...

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Maxwell's Demon (Fate)

Caster is a Caster-class Servant summoned by Fuhrer in the Imperial Capital Holy Grail Strange Story of Fate/KOHA-ACE, as well as by the High Priest Makuzu in the Sengoku Singularity of GudaGuda Final Hounoji. His real name is Maxwell's Demon, a thought experiment created by James Clerk Maxwell...

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and this

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Ok, I think all of the pages that needed to be reverted have been reverted. If you all see anything that needs to be fixed, feel free to post them here.

(P.S., to the staff, could you please relock all of the Tier 1 and Tier 2 profiles, and could the old Nasuverse Discussion Rule be put back in place for now? Thanks).

 

[Maniaunavailable]

This not but for fixing but Shiki and void shiki lacks scans and haxes

 

[Tdjwo]

This not but for fixing but Shiki and void shiki lacks scans and haxes

Everything is undergoing updates. Just wait for those in charge to finish up all the profiles

 

[Maniaunavailable]

Aoko Aozaki

Aoko Aozaki also known as Miss Blue and Magic Gunner is the Fifth Magician. Originally raised at a distance from magecraft, as her elder sister was chosen to be the family successor, she was suddenly approached by her grandfather at the age of fifteen and trained in magecraft so that she could...

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Aoko needs to be fixed, his AP is as following;

The sheer amount of energy she has to use and the time paradoxes she causes will greatly accelerate the heat death of the universe, and will ultimately result in its definite destruction

Misses the scan and the feat should be WAYYYYY higher than large island lvl

 

[Qawsedf234]

Discussions to re-examine the previous revisions will be done in a separate thread.

Regarding rolling back all the profiles, I am neutral on the matter.

In my mind better to just fix them all at once rather than rollback to already acknowledged bad justifications. Just lock them and put them as Outdated until the supporters make the needed CRTs imo.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

In my mind better to just fix them all at once rather than rollback to already acknowledged bad justifications. Just lock them and put them as Outdated until the supporters make the needed CRTs imo.

Well, the previous justifications are far better than they where they were before being rolled back.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Well, the previous justifications are far better than they where they were before being rolled back.

On a test a 50% is higher than a 30% but both are still Fs.

 

[DaReaperMan]

On a test a 50% is higher than a 30% but both are still Fs.

3 years later

"Hey why are half the profiles still outdated?"

Qaw, you are SERIOUSLY underestimating what 300 profiles that each need reworks does for a verse. Nasuverse is ******* huge, and if you spent an entire year trying to rework each profile and going full no-life, it'd probably not even be ******* done.

 

[Tdjwo]

On a test a 50% is higher than a 30% but both are still Fs.

Not in America. 50% is like D

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

On a test a 50% is higher than a 30% but both are still Fs.

Well, it's still better than before.

Not in America. 50% is like D

That depends on your class. For me, most of the time, the minimum needed to pass was a 60%.

 

[HigashikataJobin]

On a test a 50% is higher than a 30% but both are still Fs.

Not really.

A better comparison of what happened is that the previous profiles were like Ds and Fs (C in some cases) in score on the "Nasuverse Profile Quality Test".

And them, what Wankbreaker did was like if the student just started to draw random lines and them picked up and teared his test out of spite from the teacher and the subject.

 

[Qawsedf234]

3 years later

"Hey why are half the profiles still outdated?"

Ngl that's on them at that point.

Qaw, you are SERIOUSLY underestimating what 300 profiles that each need reworks does for a verse.

Bambu and I created and remade all of D&D's profiles which has a similar number to the Nasuverse, I've had to edit hundreds of profiles before we got scripts for large tiering changes, and have redid entire franchises before for upgrades. I understand what it entails, but if they're already admitting the tiers are wrong then I don't see the point in rolling back to stuff acknowledged as being incorrect.

Just put an outdated tag on them and fix it when the CRT is done.

in America. 50% is like D

The average school according to the DoE has an F at 59% or lower.

Maybe in certain schools a 50% is a D, but most will have it be an F.

 

[HigashikataJobin]

Bambu and I created and remade all of D&D's profiles which has a similar number to the Nasuverse, I've had to edit hundreds of profiles before we got scripts for large tiering changes, and have redid entire franchises before for upgrades. I understand what it entails, but if they're already admitting the tiers are wrong then I don't see the point in rolling back to stuff acknowledged as being incorrect.

Just put an outdated tag on them and fix it when the CRT is done.

The previous stuff wasn't completely wrong actually.

The verse is outdated as hell, yes, but the previous state of the profiles were in a much, much better and correct manner them after WB revisions. Some profiles quite literally were vandalized, so there's no point in maintaining vandalized profiles to the public in a wiki that wants organization with the content within it.

And this is what we want: let them how they are now and lock them from new revisions until the actual revisions from the supporters are done.

 

[Qawsedf234]

The previous stuff wasn't completely wrong actually.

If they're not wrong and just weak argument wise then sure I'm fine with it being rolled back. If they're wrong then I don't see the point in doing so.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Ngl that's on them at that point.

Bambu and I created and remade all of D&D's profiles which has a similar number to the Nasuverse, I've had to edit hundreds of profiles before we got scripts for large tiering changes, and have redid entire franchises before for upgrades. I understand what it entails, but if they're already admitting the tiers are wrong then I don't see the point in rolling back to stuff acknowledged as being incorrect.

Just put an outdated tag on them and fix it when the CRT is done.

DnD profiles also focus solely on the tabletop and literally nothing else. Oh, and it's in English. Nasuverse historically has shoddy official English TLs. So, take what you did in DnD... and now quadruple that time thanks to how few translators there actually are unless you want to fork out cash by the hundreds of USD for off-site translations.

 

[HigashikataJobin]

DnD profiles also focus solely on the tabletop and literally nothing else. Oh, and it's in English. Nasuverse historically has shoddy official English TLs. So, take what you did in DnD... and now quadruple that time thanks to how few translators there actually are unless you want to fork out cash by the hundreds of USD for off-site translations.

Not to mention that DnD is probably the verse with the most easily accessible content in this entire wiki, since every book published by DnD can be read on the internet for free.

 

[Zenith_Enigma]

I agree that 300 profiles is a lot, and usually people are not willing to even update just a couple of profiles most of the time.

 

[Firestorm808]

DnD profiles also focus solely on the tabletop and literally nothing else. Oh, and it's in English. Nasuverse historically has shoddy official English TLs. So, take what you did in DnD... and now quadruple that time thanks to how few translators there actually are unless you want to fork out cash by the hundreds of USD for off-site translations.

If's it's magnitudes harder to make good profiles, we shouldn't be having 300+ sub-par profiles being published.

Outside of core Protagonist/Antagonist profiles, we just should just delete the ones both without sufficient scans or sources.

In any case, the OP has been resolved. Closing thread.