Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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Animal Manipulation [Hades]
Hades can command beasts like Cerberus, except that’s not even what happens in the attached scan. Cerberus is just kinda there, and attacks Kratos. Guard dogs are a real thing from real life, we don’t use special animal manipulating hax to get dogs to do things.
Shapeshifting [Hades]
This is why Hades currently has shapeshifting:
This is pretty blatantly not any form of shapeshifting. Saying he disappeared in a "sooty tornado" isn't saying he literally transformed into a whirlwind of ash and smoke, just like saying someone "disappeared into thin air" doesn't mean they literally shed their physical body to become as insubstantial and invisible as oxygen. Idc if he has it anyways by virtue of being a Greek god. I just want this shit off his profile.
Corruption [Hades]
The source is this scan, which mentions some force at play gradually corrupting Olympus. The scan is cropped a tad bit, so here's the full thing. If that's still not enough context, here are some more scans from the same source. While that's a lot of words, all these scans come to the same conclusion; The Great Evils, after being released from Pandora's Box, infested the gods and played with their emotions to make them crueler and more aggressive. Much of their overconfidence and general dickishness following the events of GoW 1 can be traced back to this "corruption". Thus, the blackness in the air that "corrupts everything" is not in reference to Hades (he is never even so much as implied to be its source), but is referring to the altered emotional states of the gods that consumed the halls of Olympus and made it a generally shitty place to be (hence the blackness in the air and the "corruption"). Not only is Hades irrelevant here, but the corruption in question isn't even literal in the first place.
I would like to say that this is a simple misunderstanding, but that'd be giving GoW supporters too much credit; They're already using this scan as a justification for the Great Evils and how they influence those around them, so they know damn well this has nothing to do with Hades "corrupting" Olympus. This would also require removing part of Kratos' resistance to corruption justification.
Passive Literally Every Single Ability [Hades]
Currently, Hades’ page assumes his soul absorption - as well as every other ability he has access to - is passive. This is because of this scene, and this image from the art book. First half of this debunk is pretty easy; Taken at face value, this is just soul absorption, and none of Hades’ other abilities are used passively here. There is no reason to assume stuff like, say, life absorption, BFR, or underground mobility are being used passively here.
The first part is also easy, because there’s not really an indication his soul absorption is passive in the first place? Sure, it’s not made explicitly clear that Hades activated some sort of special ability here, but during the first half of the fight, he isn’t absorbing any souls. When he tries to take Kratos’ soul, it’s not done passively, but by Hades having to really struggle to try and rip it out, a thing which we see happen again during the war with the Titans. If this ability is passive, then all the Titans should’ve just died on the spot, and Kratos should’ve been fighting back against Hades’ attempts to rip out his soul during the entire fight, not just those initial few seconds.
Resistance to Power Nullification, Life Absorption, & Magic Absorption [Hades]
This stems from how Hades can survive the souls of the river Styx attacking him and entering his body. One problem, though. Hades quite literally commands the souls of the dead; They couldn't attack him even if they tried (Hades' soul is like bug repellent for souls once Kratos gets a hold of it; they don't even bother approaching him), and they only do the whole absorption thing when attacking people. To make matters worse, this same scan is already being used as a justification for "passive" soul absorption, so the implication is that he's absorbing them rather than enduring some adverse effect they're trying to inflict upon him. The final nail in the coffin is that, once Hades loses his control over these souls, they have no problem overpowering him and killing him for good. He straight up does not resist their abilities; He merely has the means to prevent these souls from ever harming him in the first place (until Kratos rips his soul out, anyways).
Resistance to Soul Manipulation & Poison Manipulation [Mimir]
THE AXE LITERALLY KILLED HIM WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
Resistance to Runic Magic [Mimir]
As pointed out by @DaReaperMan below, Mimir currently has resistance to most Nordic varieties of magic by scaling to Kratos. However, Kratos does not have an accepted resistance to those forms of magic, so Mimir is scaling to literally nothing. Get rid of it.
EDIT: Resistance to Bifrost can stay, since with Huldra Project #9, Mimir can fire Bifrost from his eyes while remaining mostly unharmed. It causes him pain, but that's about it.
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