The God of Darkness vs The Lady of Pain

[Udlmaster]

God of the Dark World

God (World of Darkness) vs The Lady of Pai

Standard Battle Assumptions
No Prep Time (I.E The Lady cannot prepare with her Precog ahead of time but will gain the knowledge when the battle starts)

Who wins?

God: 0

The Lady of Pain: 0

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

...

Why does god even have high godly in the first place?

Also lady seals him GG

 

[Udlmaster]

The verse gets destroyed a few times, when Hell opens, when Caine appears once more and another time I forget. Also, the reason why he can beat it is because the Angels have always survived said destruction but the Demons are terrified of God.

Also, Sealing a Type 5 Acasual?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Well, then give that as a reason.

Okay, to be fair, type 5 acausality is really good.

 

[Udlmaster]

Also, what stops God's Fate Manip? (It's shown to work on Type 5 Acasuals namely the Angels and Demons and Type 4's like the Mages)

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Ummm

Proof angels have type 5 acausality? Because, fate manipulating type 5 acausality doesen't even make sense

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Ummm

Proof angels have type 5 acausality? Because, fate manipulating type 5 acausality doesen't even make sense

 

[Udlmaster]

Angels were the ones who helped God create everything, all concepts, all reality, even Heaven (Which is described as Incalculable compared) and the Infinite amount of "Realities" which contains infinite Universeseach having At Least 5-D space.

Also, there's an infinite Number of Heavens as well.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

That's... not even remotely proof of all angels being type 5.

 

[Udlmaster]

Ummm
Proof angels have type 5 acausality? Because, fate manipulating type 5 acausality doesen't even make sense

I know, but to be fair, D&D has a similar thing going on with Type 4s, where any D&D God worth it's salt affects the other Gods with it's Prob, Precog, and Fate hax etc.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Type 5 is WAY above type 4... buuuuuut angels in world of darkness are type 4 at best.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Have the Angels themselves been erased? Or have they simoly survived? There is a difference between simply tanking the destruction and regenerating from it.

 

[Udlmaster]

That's... not even remotely proof of all angels being type 5.

The Angels where created before existence. They along with God helped craft Existence into being. At that point, anything that wasn't God, didn't exist.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

That's.... not type 5. At all.

 

[Udlmaster]

Have the Angels themselves been erased? Or have they simoly survived? There is a difference between simply tanking the destruction and regenerating from it.

It's never said, just that they will always return. They need to be totally destroyed in order to not come back.

 

[Udlmaster]

That's.... not type 5. At all.

It really is, they existed before any concepts where made, Casuality had yet to be made.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

That's also not high godly. At all. That's not even Regenerationn at all. It's just type 5 immortality.

 

[Udlmaster]

That's also not high godly. At all. That's not even Regenerationn at all. It's just type 5 immortality.

I thought we was talking about Type 5 Acasuality?

If you're talking about Dragon's question, it's talking about them returning, which is an obvious reference to Regenerationn in the eyes of the Wiki.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

That's at absolute most, low godly Regenerationn.

 

[Udlmaster]

Um? No. Like, not at all.

Unless this is now Low-Godly because they survived being destroyed?:

"Regenerationn (True-Godly as they instantly returned from being destroyed by Lucifer's flame)"

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

That's not even a remotely comparable thing. Lucifer has 1-A conceptual erasure.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Nothing there states anything about then regenerating, better yet High Godly. It says this exactly;

Angels are undying creatures, and when composed by a span of an infinite lifetime, any setback short of destruction is but a temporary thing

Nothing regarding regen.

 

[Udlmaster]

When it says destroyed, it means them literally getting destroyed, as in the idea of being destroyed, not EE or Void Manipulation, like, dude, they existed in the Void before Creation without even flinching.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

No. That's like, Low Godly, and that's me being generous.

 

[Udlmaster]

Also, this wiki lists Spectre's Regen as True-Godly based on him coming back from being Erased from the Void:

" Regenerationn (True-Godly; regenerated after being thrown and erased in the Void),"

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

"Any setback short of destruction is but a temporary thing."

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

The scan you posted proves nothing. Them living in a void beforehand means nothing. Arceus was literally born in a void before creation. You don't see him with Godly regen due to it.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Wait wait wait what

Why does he have Type 5 Acausality

 

[Udlmaster]

Existed before Casuality was a concept.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Creating causality doesn't give you type 5. Otherwise crusader kings god would have type 5.

 

[Udlmaster]

Um, dude, now you're contradicting yourself.

 

[Udlmaster]

>Tge scan you posted prives nothing. Them living in a void beforehand means nothing. Arceus was literally born in a void before creation. You don't see him with Godly regen due to it.

Take that up with the Spectre page:

You're conflating "Any stback short of destruction is but a temporary thing" meaning EE or Void Manipulation, which is obviously doesn't as shown beforehand, because they existed before literally everything, there was but God and the Void, if they had "Low-Godly" regen, then they'd have been erased when they entered the Void, but they obviously didn't.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Regardless that High Godly stuff needs to go as the scan you posted does not even remotely prove such a thing

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Unless the void actively erases people they just have low godly

 

[Udlmaster]

Well, if you give me a bit more time, I'll be able to find the other quotes about the Angels.

But I am the only one working on the entire Verse, so you've got to be patient with me, because I have to sift through a lot.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

This went from "God (World of Darkness) vs The Lady of Pain" to "God (World of Darkness)'s page sucks" real quick.

 

[Phoenix821]

This thread has turned into a CRT.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I'm 99% sure the lady will stomp after the downgrades

 

[Udlmaster]

Thank you Paulo, 1 issue and the entire page sucks.

Well, do forgive me, it's not like I'm the only one who's having to do research on the verse itself and sift through 13 different settings, which with several supplicants, not even going into the fact that there's New World of Darkness and Old.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

It's kind of like when "Doctor Doom Vs SCP-682" turned into "SCP-682 is a garbage character", or when some vs threads just devolve into memes after whe find out they're stomps.