The Boys discussion thread

[LegendariumOfLies]

For feats, the Deep is kind of bad in terms of anti feats. He got killed by the octopus, and got knocked out by the speed boat not even hitting him in season 2

Now the octopus feat does have some defenses. First, it’s bigger than real octopuses, so could be stronger as well. It also seems to have gone through he’s ass, so maybe he’s weaker from the inside out like Translucent. But the boat anti feat is pretty damming

That being said, I do think characters like the Deep, Starlight, Kimiko, etc, are at least wall level

The Building level scaling is interesting. We have it because it’s implied that Kimiko would survive Lamplighter’s fire. But isn’t that because she heals? Lamplighter was also scared of Cindy, but that might not be because she’s immune to his fire, but because he doesn’t know if she is. And if there’s a chance she survives, or he misses with his blast, then his head goes pop

Wrong the Peak solos. The Agenda will be maintained

 

[Queen_Dasania]

Wrong the Peak solos. The Agenda will be maintained

 

[Hellscream]

Wrong the Peak solos. The Agenda will be maintained

 

[Jropzone1]

For feats, the Deep is kind of bad in terms of anti feats. He got killed by the octopus, and got knocked out by the speed boat not even hitting him in season 2

Now the octopus feat does have some defenses. First, it’s bigger than real octopuses, so could be stronger as well. It also seems to have gone through he’s ass, so maybe he’s weaker from the inside out like Translucent. But the boat anti feat is pretty damming

That being said, I do think characters like the Deep, Starlight, Kimiko, etc, are at least wall level

The Building level scaling is interesting. We have it because it’s implied that Kimiko would survive Lamplighter’s fire. But isn’t that because she heals? Lamplighter was also scared of Cindy, but that might not be because she’s immune to his fire, but because he doesn’t know if she is. And if there’s a chance she survives, or he misses with his blast, then his head goes pop

MM said it would only piss her off meaning it wouldn't do anything to actually harm her

 

[Queen_Dasania]

MM said it would only piss her off meaning it wouldn't do anything to actually harm her

Tbf, snapping her neck would effectively only piss her off, even if it breaches her durability

But I guess the “possibly” rating works well enough then

 

[PresentTrunks]

But the boat anti feat is pretty damming

It wasn't even the boat, it was falling from the whale and hitting his head on gravely sand. Even the weaker Supes from Gen V have survived or tanked worse, so I think we can just dismiss this as a complete outlier. Fighting Starlight and punching through a skull (let alone anything Kimiko's done even in her weakest portrayals) are literally orders of magnitude above this.

 

[57Dev]

The Octopus going through his anus is nonsense either way. First, can't even that to a normal human, the force would just end up pushing the human. Also it someone tore the Deep's jaw so no it can't be dura neg, it overpowered his durability.

I don't think he has super durable insides, (no feat for such, he can dive very deep but since he has gills, his lungs won't collapse). Although my biggest problem with that scene is "For Ambriosia".

First, how would they even know ? Ambrosia died in Vought tower, no one should really know how she died other than the deep. Second, why tf do they give a shit ? Sharks would tear her apart and Octopus are cannibals. They established a whole fish genocide which would make much more sense being brought up here for revenge.

 

[Omegas03]

There are many ways to criticize the show. Using Stillwell's statements which could easily be explained as false is not one of em. Rather pointing out his inconsistent power levels would be better imho.

I think there are multiple statements for the Stillwell one to get completely dismissed

-Homelander claims he can easily level a city

-Stan Edgar says Homelander is as strong as a neutron bomb

-Butcher claims in season 3 that Soldier Boy must have died from a Hydrogen Bomb when it was thought SB was dead

-Soldier Boy claims that the radiation room that he trapped Homelander in season 5 was to see if supes could withstand an atomic bomb.

I am not advocating for Tier 7 btw or do I?

Point is that Homelander/SB have multiple accolades of the same level. It's not an isolated statement tbh and I don't think theres much Anti feats for them at least in AP/dura.

 

[Da3ggman]

I am not advocating for Tier 7 btw or do I?

Point is that Homelander/SB have multiple accolades of the same level. It's not an isolated statement tbh and I don't think theres much Anti feats for them at least in AP/dura.

lol

 

[Omegas03]

Elaborate

 

[ShionAH]

First, how would they even know ? Ambrosia died in Vought tower, no one should really know how she died other than the deep. Second, why tf do they give a shit ? Sharks would tear her apart and Octopus are cannibals. They established a whole fish genocide which would make much more sense being brought up here for revenge.

This is where the Deeps power is Animal Control not Speech theory comes from lol

 

[PresentTrunks]

Elaborate

He's saying that HL is a featless *****.

 

[Just_Butchering]

That being said, I do think characters like the Deep, Starlight, Kimiko, etc, are at least wall level

Small Building level*

The Building level scaling is interesting. We have it because it’s implied that Kimiko would survive Lamplighter’s fire. But isn’t that because she heals?

That's partly why is a possible rating

Lamplighter was also scared of Cindy, but that might not be because she’s immune to his fire, but because he doesn’t know if she is. And if there’s a chance she survives, or he misses with his blast, then his head goes pop

Uh, maybe? He also is pretty much a human level in stats, so he is ****** against her unless he attacks first.

 

[Queen_Dasania]

Small Building level*

That's partly why is a possible rating

Uh, maybe? He also is pretty much a human level in stats, so he is ****** against her unless he attacks first.

I’m just saying at least building level because someone was saying to downgrade to street level+. Anything below wall level makes no sense at all

 

[Just_Butchering]

I’m just saying at least building level because someone was saying to downgrade to street level+

Delusional mofo lol. Like, at their worst, they still break walls and overpower our also wall level humans

Anything below wall level makes no sense at all

Genuinely

 

[DaReaperMan]

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

9-B Homelander take it or leave it

 

[Just_Butchering]

9-B Homelander take it or leave it

I'm sometimes torn between just upscaling from the rest of the supes or getting him to tier 7, no middle ground(?