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The Boys discussion thread
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Just_Butchering
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There's more class K feats for the boys than this one anti-feat.
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As a kid Maeve canonically caught a bus and she halted an armored vehicle, in season one (pre training which was much weaker than HL). Homelander can lift a plane on solid ground, and some weaker Supes have spin rip feats. So at best it proves Butcher scaling to Homelander’s is inconsistent, but that’s it.
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Homelander's lifting strength was already shaky after he was pinned by a bus and a few tonnes of rubble in s2 which allowed the Boys to escape. No one in the boys have any good LS feats with the only one coming from a Stormfront statement. Maeve caught a bus but it's important to note that she fractured her right arm in 3 different places because of that.
Actually scratch that. Homelander has that one feat of chucking a guy and giving him air time for multiple seconds casually.
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She was 23. Not exactly a kid and she broke her right arm in 3 different places after doing so. So their ls strength is likely in the 10s of tons range. Class 100- class 25 imho. Not class K.
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No one in the show ever beats Homelander in LS anyway. Once he caught SB's fist, SB wasn't even able to move him.
Same with Maeve, who Homelander just presses on her knees and gouges her eye out completely overpowering her.
SB, Butcher and Hughie can't hold him down. In the Finale he is held down but the notable difference being that Ryan is the one holding him down.
Same with Maeve, who Homelander just presses on her knees and gouges her eye out completely overpowering her.
SB, Butcher and Hughie can't hold him down. In the Finale he is held down but the notable difference being that Ryan is the one holding him down.
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I misremembered then, because I thought she was a teenager. Anyways, she was younger than what we see in the series.
The point was not to claim that she was Class K back then, but to show how Butcher being unable to lift Rock Hard would be a ridiculous antifeat, if he is only 30k lbs (13.6 tonnes). Maeve has Class 25 & Class 100 feats as you mention but was still far weaker than HL.
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Again it wouldn't be. Maeve broke all the bones in her right arm stopping the bus falling of a bridge. At first I thought she caught it after it had dropped a distance but that wouldn't be the case, and it's pretty vague anyways. The weight of the average school bus in America is 13-16 tonnes and she broker her arm by doing that. She clearly cannot do it on a normal basis. She was 23. Assuming Rock Hard actually weighed 10 Tonnes, it would make sense they wouldn't be able to move him too far.
We know that the impact force from when she caught/stopped the bus from falling couldn't have been that high because all the kids survived it afterwards. Which also suggests that the buses velocity (if it had any) wasn't a big factor.
Listing that feat of her breaking her hands from catching a bus only reinforces Butcher struggling with that weight.
But it wouldn't even scale to Homelander as Homelander can physically stat check Maeve even after he training arc.
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You also have to take into account that Rock Hard has most likely melted and fused into the floor. It's not just the weight. Plus even Butcher could lift him, the Truck's suspension would get crushed.
And Rock Hard himself mocks Annie's estimate of his weight so it's likely much higher. We could calc it.
And Rock Hard himself mocks Annie's estimate of his weight so it's likely much higher. We could calc it.
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It's kinda pointless, since Rock Hard couldn't even move himself like this, as he was nearly as strong as Homelander.
Homelander has enough feats to say that Class K is consistent for him. So:
- If the weight is lower than that, is an anti feat
- If the weight is higher, we don't if Homelander could lift that, so it doesn't affect anyone
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Still, all the calc would really accomplish is tell us if Annie made a correct estimate of not.
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Butcher can lift a car with ease while not using all of his tentacles/power and throw it not just deadlift it,so thats a starting point ig.(Idk whats the point of lifting strength in powerscaling tbh,isnt AP just better?)
Anyways wish me luck guys I have important exams this week.
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Did a sandbox for (not so) future update on Maeve
Grappling and restraining the opponent or resisting being pushed by them
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She wasn't a kid but a pro-hero. She also shattered her arm doing that.
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Yeah, I realized I had misremembered a bit. I thought she was a bit younger than Annie in Season 1, when it happened. Lol
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So do I. Best of luck.
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I was rewatching the show, and the inconsistencies become awful in season 4, especially with Kimiko's durability.
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Here is a doozy. Since Soldier Boy can turn off powers without evaporating you, season 3 finale makes 0 sense now.
"Oi, Soldier boy. Depower Ohmlander and Ryan, I will do in the **** and take me son home. Womp womp."
That's it. That's the story over right there. He didn't need to fight SB at all. And no SB didn't learn a ******* new skill.
He was unconscious from the finale of S3 to S5. He just can do it apparently.
"Oi, Soldier boy. Depower Ohmlander and Ryan, I will do in the **** and take me son home. Womp womp."
That's it. That's the story over right there. He didn't need to fight SB at all. And no SB didn't learn a ******* new skill.
He was unconscious from the finale of S3 to S5. He just can do it apparently.
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Peter Parker might retain some muscle after losing his powers and he would still have his martial arts training, but like Deku does the "vaguely superhuman because he hit gym" shit you find in comics and mangaYeah no. Deku slimes everyone here
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All Might is what, 255 kg. Deku was not only lifting, but walking with him on top. All while being a 5 foot 5 inches tall beanstalk. That makes Deku, pound for pound, a superhuman.
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When couldn't he? Kimiko and Maeve weren't directly harmed by SB's blasts.
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Thanks mate good luck to you too.
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The video was mainly talking about start of the story characters. I mean eos Deku is ripped and knows how to fight well.
If we go with Start of the story. Deku atleast has some knowledge about fighting given his obsession of watching and recording hero clips
Meanwhile Parker got wedgies from Flash every Thursday. Narratively he is a weak sauce nerd. And unlike Deku, he is a science nerd rather than superhero hero nerd.
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guys did the v1 make lander weaker
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Homelander's heat vision is not accepted as light speed afaik
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what is it accepted at then?
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It has no speed other than "Is faster than Homelander".
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I don’t think Homelander's heat vision is lightspeed, but it would be funny. Just for the optics of how A-Train with years of training and the best super-roids struggled with low Mach, but by not being an asshole gave him a zillion-fold speed boost up to MFTL+.
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fixed it. He's still MFTL+, just slightly lower
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Thats calc stacking
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