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The Boxer • Yu Ability additions+AP Upgrade
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would his punch really scale fully to his durability?
Also i forgot, J scales as well since he tanked countless blows from Yu and parried two
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not really no, not to mention Yu is a prime example of that as he is basically a glass canon
J parried two hits and made Yu hella surprised. He should be at least 9-B, possibly 9-A
azontr
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I mean, how can we know that? He's never actually gotten hit. The only time it was insinuated a hit would be dangerous to him is when he fought Aaron.
A possibly works, but definitely not a full on rating as Yu was, as stated, toying with him that entire fight.
azontr
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Also, by the time Yu fights Aaron, he's gotten buff as ****. I don't think there's any reason to assume that he's some sort of glass cannon that can't take punches, as his level of bulk both fluctuates and he's never actually ever taken a direct hit that was meant to harm him.
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Jean is an example, he was stated to be able to throw a powerful punch and yet not be capable of taking too many hits
azontr
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Jean is Jean, and Yu is Yu. Even if we do accept him as a glass cannon in some keys, by the time his last key rolls around, he's more than bulked up enough to the point he could take a hit without going down, so I don't see why we should assume he's some sort of glass cannon.
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fair but still, how do we know he scales to 9-A?
He one-shot Viktor who one-shots others with his op russian hook and might be able to hurt Aron
Yu can't harm Aron without dura neg.
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it was stated, if i remember correctly either by K or by the extra trainer who worked with K, that his russian hook was strong enough to contend with Aaron tide. Chapter 70-73 or so
DivineAura44
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That's pretty skeptical and semantical. If he says "might" we can assume the guy (who is the best coach in the world) who trained Aaron Tide is credible. I'm not saying Viktor > Aaron. I'm saying Viktor is at least on the level of Aaron with his punch. It's not even that crazy when you consider, Aaron has been holding back. Scaling Viktor to a far held back Aaron isn't something extraordinary.
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Hold up, let me check something. Maybe it's me bugging.
Rikimarox2
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Yeah uh, I don't really see a reason why we can't scale Yu's ap to his durability? We usually don't do it IF there's a reason to assume so, but I'm not really seeing anything.
Some shitty Coach saying that Viktor might stand a chance against Aaron really doesn't mean much, especially when the coach could very well be indorsed in hype due to seeing how Viktor was winning every match.
Altho I could be misremembering.
Some shitty Coach saying that Viktor might stand a chance against Aaron really doesn't mean much, especially when the coach could very well be indorsed in hype due to seeing how Viktor was winning every match.
azontr
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The coach's actually ability as a coach was never explained or shown. For instance, we know K is a legendary coach for a reason because he's effectively trained some of the best boxers the world has ever seen.
But for Viktor's coach, we don't know shit about his track record. He didn't even train Viktor. He couldn't because Viktor refused to listen to him, and just won all of his matches anyway. We've got no reason to trust him.
But for Viktor's coach, we don't know shit about his track record. He didn't even train Viktor. He couldn't because Viktor refused to listen to him, and just won all of his matches anyway. We've got no reason to trust him.
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Aight I'll stop you right there. This wasn't the only statment about Aaron tide. Chapter 76 also has a statement by an expert boxing reporter, the guy who analyzed every boxer so far and one of the few who knew just how good the first punch that Yu threw was. He literally said he's the only one who could stand a chance against Aaron. Also, Vlaslenko is also stated to not be a joke when it comes down to it.
azontr
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Gonna stop you right there for a second.
"If Viktor was capable of fighting like a regular boxer, he might have been the only one who could stand a chance against that monster."
The statement you use literally contradicts the point you're trying to prove by saying Viktor literally cannot stand up to Aaron because of his own weaknesses.
I'll retract my point about his coach having no credentials, but still, we have no reason to use this scaling. At best he'd be "9-A, possibly higher".
"If Viktor was capable of fighting like a regular boxer, he might have been the only one who could stand a chance against that monster."
The statement you use literally contradicts the point you're trying to prove by saying Viktor literally cannot stand up to Aaron because of his own weaknesses.
I'll retract my point about his coach having no credentials, but still, we have no reason to use this scaling. At best he'd be "9-A, possibly higher".
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Not his weakness, that's bs, it is because he has no skills and spams Russian hooks
azontr
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Even if he did have skills, it's still extremely far fetched to scale him anywhere near Aaron. Especially since all of his previous matches were all Aaron holding back SIGNIFICANTLY.
At best, as previously stated, it'd be a "9-A, possibly higher" rating, which I am personally iffy on.
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Still don't see how it would scale to Yu or vis dura
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Because he hasn't matched a punch from Viktor who has his punch > his defense and never hurt Aron without dura neg. He also never took a punch from any of the two.
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Prove why it is not a reason and prove why he isn't a glass canon like Jean Pierre.
Rikimarox2
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Why, exactly, would he be a glass cannon? Don't we usually scale AP = Durability? Is there any reason to assume why he's a glass cannon?
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Like i said, i see no evidence for scaling his AP to his dura. Even if he is actually 9-A ans Viktor actually scales to 9-A via durability, he still never tanked anything remotely as strong
azontr
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He's never tanked anything. He's never taken a direct hit, ever.
We scale AP=Durability like this quite literally all the time. There's nothing to suggest his durability wouldn't scale 1:1 with his AP as he's never tanked anything or taken any damage to say he wouldn't be able to tank it. He's never been hit.
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Tell that to Wolverine with 8-C AP and 3-C with claws. We've already crossed into supernatural territory in this comic with Viktor's luck and power so trying to use realism as an argument is also not an option
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We scale AP to Dura because people constantly 1v1 and end up hitting each other a ton and showing that each one of them are equal in power and thus scaling
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Except for the fact that Viktor's punchig power is constantly implied to be extremely outstanding and has no reason to scale to his duraYeah but it's almost as if we have no reason to scale his durability lower than his AP regardless.
