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The Battle of the Genocide Bosses

FloweryAlex said:
Superior soul manip? Blue Mode is far less useful here than the Green one.
Speed equal tough?

KARMA takes a shitload to kill people.
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Sans' teleportation allows him to easily dodge most of Undyne's attacks without getting tired and if I remeber correctly, doesn't Green Mode also give the opponent a shield to defend against Undyne? Blue Mode grants no advantages to the enemy and it allows Sans to fling the opponent around like a ragdoll. In the end, Sans will spam Undyne to death with Gaster Blasters and bones.
 
I'll count the votes later taking care of the reasonings behind them. I'm sure both sides would get debunked votes so it's too soon to say anything.

And as Apathetic said, KR doesn't do damage based on sins. It's Soul Poison.

And yeah, FloweryAlex is right. 2-B Frisk is Pacifist Route Frisk.

Sans fought Genocide Route Frisk who's different from the PR counterpart.
 
Sans wouldn't bother sidestepping if teleporting was less stamina consuming.

Yes, but he would need to make 360 moves to actually parry it, and he doesn't have no byakugan to see all sides.

Blue mode is absolutly useless when the enemy can attack from afar.
 
Apatheticskell said:
Geno Frisk is 2-C soul manip resist and only 2 people might be the same person.
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... No.

No, they are not. Chara is so much above frisk it's not even funny. And Undyne specifically has the same stats as the frisk sans fought, so I guess Undyne is a goddamn universe buster.
 
Apatheticskell said:
This is a turn based battle.
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No, it is not. You can't force game mechanics on them. Only humans are implied to work by turns, and undyne's fight with fluffybuns plain contradicts it.
 
No, ******* hell no,

Frisk is low 2-C when they fought Sans.

Undyne and Frisk only hav the same DEF and ATK but they don't have the same HP since Frisk had 92 HP and Undyne does'nt have HP.
 
Undyne has more HP than Omega Flowey. And it's absolute game mechanics. Only Def and ATK are canon.

Also, put the ' after the N in doesn't.
 
Looked it up. She has 23.000 HP.

Might want to just agree to HP being game mechanics. Unless you think Froggits are 2-C for having over 90 HP.
 
HP is one of the few things in Undertale to be considered Game Mechanic.
 
Ever heard cherry picking?

Chara doesn't have a canonical HP count, nor does the Anomaly, and it's game mechanics for frisk.

And I don't see how feisk having 92HP would prove undyne weaker.
 
Anomaly controls Frisk.

Chara does'nt have true HP your right.

If HP for monsters was canon when Frisk would check them it would respond with HP but it didn't so, no monsters do 't have HP.
 
And? The anomaly still has no canon HP count.

...

Then why did you try and use it as a reasoning for undyne being weaker?
 
What are you talking about?

Undyne and Frisk are equally durable and strong. There is absolutly zero reason to cherry pick frisk's HP to be more canon then the others, when you can easily count how much of it they have by counting the amount of damage you do them.
 
No, it is not. We are clearly shown a menu, doesn't mean that's canon. And again, we are clearly shown hoelw each of your attack takes hundreds of HP away from her, so your reasoning is still flawed.

And once again, you are counting obviously flawed votes.
 
First of all, that would still mean he doesn't have enough, second of all, hoo boi are there many more flawed for both sides.
 
3 hours and grace ends. This will be a victory for Sans(I guess) also I checked only a few votes were flawed on both sides.
 
I counted all the votes and this is the current result:

Sans: 10 (Mariogoods, TheArsenal1212, BruceTheBatman, SansTheSkeleton101, Apatheticskell, TheBoneyBoi, HardCorenerd, Dragonboi9191, Calciumandbones (probably sockpuppet but he talked more than FRA), Luke Merod)

Undyne: 10~11 (ApiesDeathbyLazors, Ricsi-viragosi, Wokistan?, Deucalion.Nikos, Calaca Vs, Demon Takumo (his argument about Undyne's HP is wrong but the rest of his arguments are correct), Fastrthnwind, ThePixelKirby, Rodri Dante, ShakeResounding, FloweryAlex (not sure if it's sockpuppet but he gave more reasons than the others and kept discussing in the thread for a while)

Incon: 1 (Jimboydejuan12)

Votes not counted: Videogamer1265 (assumed things such as Sans being combat smarter and being capable of switch green to blue mode). KarmatheKing (badly smells to sockpuppet and even then he didn't gave good reasons), Waluigiisomnipotent (more sockpuppet smell),

So right now it's inconclusive and Undyne has the advantage.

EDIT: BTW Undyne was the first to reach the 7 votes. Funny fact.
 
Karma's vote should be counted since if he's a sock of another acc. he's vote sill counts regardless it's Waluigiisomnipotent's vote that shouldn't count if he is a sock.
 
Videogamer1265 said:
Undyne has a 0 percent chance of wining with unequalize speed that would've been a quick stomp match.

Still though Sans is Smarter and he has defeated foes stronger than him and Undyne combined.

Green mode won't help much since 50 percent of the time Sans will teleport away from the spear and even if Undyne catches him due to having greater soul manip he can always manipulate his soul back to blue mode.
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Speed is equalized.

Sans isn't combat smarter than Undyne and in a fight that's important.

Assuming Blue Mode cancels Green Mode is a huge no no. We don't even know if Sans could affect himself with that.

While he can teleport in green mode that doesn't mean the Danmaku'd stop. Every movement Sans does tires him.

@Fastrthnwind

Yeah, this one isn't enough. It's a smooth version of 'KR doesn't work on good people'.

So no. 10-10~9 (I've asked Wokistan if indeed voted Undyne).
 
Sans: 12 (Mariogoods, TheArsenal1212, BruceTheBatman, SansTheSkeleton101, Apatheticskell, TheBoneyBoi, HardCorenerd, Dragonboi9191, Calciumandbones (probably sockpuppet but he talked more than FRA), Luke Merod, KarmatheKing, Videogamer1265)

Undyne: 9 (ApiesDeathbyLazors, Ricsi-viragosi, Deucalion.Nikos, Calaca Vs, Demon Takumo (his argument about Undyne's HP is wrong but the rest of his arguments are correct), ThePixelKirby, Rodri Dante, ShakeResounding, FloweryAlex (not sure if it's sockpuppet but he gave more reasons than the others and kept discussing in the thread for a while)

Incon: 1 (Jimboydejuan12)
 
Lol no. Videogamer's vote doesn't count. Even if two sockpuppets are the same person both are sockpuppets so they don't count. Stop trying to get as many votes as you can from people who didn't properly vote or can't be counted.

Wokistan didn't voted and he doesn't want to read the thread so it's 9 for Undyne and 10 for Sans despite what you might think.
 
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