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Are you 100% sure that kanji is the one that would so much as have a chance of getting your case anywhere? I'm not sure I see the appllication to your case, for that matter.
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Sometimes people understand things better when they understand that in their own way rather than slapping it on their face.Follow Doctor Freeman said:Leaving others to piece together the context and application of this quote isn't doing a favor for yourself.
...At most you proved that the visuals are inconsistent. The statements themselves are stated by one of the most knowledgeable guys in the Zelda verse.Matthew Schroeder said:The creation myth isn't the best source to use. It has the land of Hyrule being created before the sun.
You are just trying to force a literal interpretation that Hyrule is a universe now, it seems... Is this an elaborate prank?
Agree 100% with this.Dust Collector said:I agree with pretty much everything Azzy has said, the overall argument for 3-A Triforce is shaky without any explicit evidence or statements to back it up and is based on using the absolute highest interpretation for almost every statement.
No, it's only used for kingdom, Light World (and the mirror of other worlds like Termina), and the combination of Light World and Sacred Realm (assuming all those statements don't simply mean that the connectio between the two is in Hyrule).SomebodyData said:If I remember correctly, Hyrule is used interchangeably with the kingdom, continent, planet, and universe, so going off the high-end seems disingenuous.
You "don't think", but you haven't shown anything proving that. This is just you refuting evidence for the sake of it.Matthew Schroeder said:@Follow
I don't think the sun was made after the land of Hyrule.
It just goes to show that these in-universe sources aren't the most reliable thing when it comes to talking about the universe.
Makes sense, it's a medieval fantasy setting.
Okay, denigrating was a strong word, but yeah. You got what I meant.Matthew Schroeder said:I'm not denigrating a character, chill out. These people don't even exist.
"Refuting evidence for the sake of it" ... Uuuh, yes? This is what we should do. Fairly analyze and refute evidence wherever possible. What you're basically saying is asking me not to think or debate and just accept the statement blindly.
Despite the fact that we are living the mythsMatthew Schroeder said:My main point is that I don't think that myth is 100% reliable proof of universal scale.
Just a note that Zelda isn't the kind of game that treats in-universe creation myths as unreliable. It is fairly straightforward in that manner, as far as I have understood.Matthew Schroeder said:My main point is that I don't think that myth is 100% reliable proof of universal scale.
Japanese doesn't even use the word "chaos" in creation myths (ASAIK) at difference of this one.SomebodyData said:And again, only the Western world / Arabic one uses Chaos in that context, there is no reason to assume that the developers used Chaos like that.
No, Hyrule's only used as the kingdom and as the "Light World", which is at absolute bare minimum 2 astronomical units from being = to the Dark World, a parallel world that has a sun and the planet is at the center (which is the reason we know the two meanings are separated, as Hyrule isn't all that big of a kingdom). These are the only meanings it assumed through the series. At most it's stated that the SR is inside Hyrule but those statements probably refers to the fact that the CONNECTION is inside Hyrule.Matthew Schroeder said:Makes sense, it's a medieval fantasy setting.