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He can't use the reality/time stone to undo it? They make it seem like a big deal.
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Thanos (Spoilers?) Weaknesses
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Wait the gauntlet's messed up? Laters Thanos
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It's unrelated to the discussion but if Thanos can't just fix the Gauntlet then he'll have a problem. On an unrelated note is there anyone knowledgeable yet to join the discussion.
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Yeah, i can't really support that.
Reality Stone IS illusions/Transmutation, there is no arguing that.
"Reality is what i want" is a throw out line that barely determines what the stone does.
If he truly could change rrealuty, he would have created a reality where half of the universe was dead, or Titan didnt die, or already had all 7 stones. (Since MCU stones have no sort of reality warping rrsistance nor does the universe)
That is why erasing half the universe was literally nothing in the comics compared to anything else he could do, while the MCU implies its a massive feat that needs all 7 stones to do, even busting the glove in the process.
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In conclusion, MCU reality stone does illusions and transmutations and nothing evem close to real rrality warping.
Unless you are all willing to add "Imcopetent" to his profile.
Reality Stone IS illusions/Transmutation, there is no arguing that.
"Reality is what i want" is a throw out line that barely determines what the stone does.
If he truly could change rrealuty, he would have created a reality where half of the universe was dead, or Titan didnt die, or already had all 7 stones. (Since MCU stones have no sort of reality warping rrsistance nor does the universe)
That is why erasing half the universe was literally nothing in the comics compared to anything else he could do, while the MCU implies its a massive feat that needs all 7 stones to do, even busting the glove in the process.
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In conclusion, MCU reality stone does illusions and transmutations and nothing evem close to real rrality warping.
Unless you are all willing to add "Imcopetent" to his profile.
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He is sort of incompetent, that's the point of the OP lol
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No, there's no proof it is Illusions, he outright physically modifies the location of Knowhere.
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Then its an massive amount of PIS that makes the reality stone useless in versus threads.
It was an illusion, if he had realility warping, he would have killed half of the universe/have all 7 stones with rrality alone.
Like i said, that is why erasing half the universe was the beggining in the comics, being nothing compared to the rest of the stuff he could do, while, he needed ALL 7 to kill half thr universe in the movie.
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Do you have aby proof of real reality warping aside from a Outlier statement that could mean anything?
It was an illusion, if he had realility warping, he would have killed half of the universe/have all 7 stones with rrality alone.
Like i said, that is why erasing half the universe was the beggining in the comics, being nothing compared to the rest of the stuff he could do, while, he needed ALL 7 to kill half thr universe in the movie.
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Do you have aby proof of real reality warping aside from a Outlier statement that could mean anything?
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If they were illusions Gamora wouldn't physically interact with and stab that Thanos duplicate.
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A bit of creation in there, yes.
But if he could just warp thr universe to his will, he would have accomplished everythign he wanted with the reality stone alone.
But if he could just warp thr universe to his will, he would have accomplished everythign he wanted with the reality stone alone.
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It's not an outlier.
Thanos uses what he needs to defeat his current opponent. He mainly uses offensive attacks because he doesn't need to use anything else.
But when he goes up against Doctor Strange, he makes the most extensive use of the Stones in the film because being punchy won't cut it.
Thanos enjoys fighting, and won't use powers that he doesn't need to defeat his current opponent.
Thanos uses what he needs to defeat his current opponent. He mainly uses offensive attacks because he doesn't need to use anything else.
But when he goes up against Doctor Strange, he makes the most extensive use of the Stones in the film because being punchy won't cut it.
Thanos enjoys fighting, and won't use powers that he doesn't need to defeat his current opponent.
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Every instance of the reality stone's use was shown to actually warp reality. The caveat is that the effects seem to wear off when Thanos leaves or does something else. As seen with Drax and Mantis, it isn't permanent.
Still, could be easily used for incap (as it was in that scene), followed by Thanos going for the kill.
Still, could be easily used for incap (as it was in that scene), followed by Thanos going for the kill.
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Yeah, the fact that the effects are not permanent should be noted on his profile.
Then most of the outliers on the film are now excusable.
That does still imply Thanos is highly inexperienced with the stones and goes the long and incovenient way thru on every fight, which should also be noted.
mcu Stones have no resistance to rrality warping, and Thanos could just will them all together and on his glove.
Then most of the outliers on the film are now excusable.
That does still imply Thanos is highly inexperienced with the stones and goes the long and incovenient way thru on every fight, which should also be noted.
mcu Stones have no resistance to rrality warping, and Thanos could just will them all together and on his glove.
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What are you talking about know english
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Thanos has only insta-incapacitated fodder.
He uses the power,space and reality stone to supplement his physical prowess when fighting actual opponents, not just hax and portal away.
He can use the reality stone to set a trap via changing the environment.
He uses the power,space and reality stone to supplement his physical prowess when fighting actual opponents, not just hax and portal away.
He can use the reality stone to set a trap via changing the environment.
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He used Space and Reality Stone for hax against Strange.
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Woah great argument.
Anyways, yeah, a note is highly needed on the limitations of the reality stone.
Anyways, yeah, a note is highly needed on the limitations of the reality stone.
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100% Yes.
Specially since we do niot know the range the stones have in the MCU in their abilities.
Also add that Reality stone effects dissapear when he is in a different location/are temporary
Specially since we do niot know the range the stones have in the MCU in their abilities.
Also add that Reality stone effects dissapear when he is in a different location/are temporary
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"Unlikely to kill with the stones though will utilize them in combat, but ultimately prefers hand-to-hand combat"Antvasima said:
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That, and that he is unexperienced and ignorant of the stone's full power.
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I'd rather his weakness be "Prefers hand-to-hand over using the stones as his first move", as he, when he sees that he needs an equalizer, will use it immediately. E.g. He knows he can't beat Strange without the stones, and he can't exactly punch Stark if Stark flies away.
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Yeah but he's also never incapacitated anyone that would make him struggle like he did against the guardians or anybody else not worth his time. I'm trying to avoid "Thanos uses ____ stone GG" matches from people who never saw the movie.
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It's in-character for him to avoid pointless deaths.
Our Standard Battles Assumption page notes that combatants are in-character, but willing to kill.
- Heimdall died because he sent Hulk to Earth as a warning, therefore giving others the chance to prep up.
- Loki died because he tried to stab Thanos, and given Loki's penchant for being annoying for everyone, Thanos thought him better, dead, than a future threat.
- Gamora died because soul stone.
- Stark would've died had Strange not made a bargain.
Our Standard Battles Assumption page notes that combatants are in-character, but willing to kill.
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That's still besides my point.
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He will kill with the stones if the situation really calls for it. He blew up Thor's ship with the intent of killing them, else, he wouldn't have been surprised by his return.
He was going to kill Stark via the stones, he had his gauntlet aimed at him with his hand closed in a fist before Strange went in for a trade.
He was going to kill Stark via the stones, he had his gauntlet aimed at him with his hand closed in a fist before Strange went in for a trade.
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In combat that rarely happens though. Tony was probably knocking on death's door anyway after Thanos stabbed him, which was probably a mercy kill on Thanos's part.
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That's the power of advanced science :^) Thanos can't get that in a stone
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I am much in favor of Gemmy's argument.
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I heavily agree with Gemmy as well.
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Fine with this and anything else that needs to be added.Gemmysaur said:
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I'd add it but "the 'avoid pointless deaths' part can be added as a weakness" still confuses me tbh.
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I don't really get the "avoid pointless deaths' either. I'm not sure if that's really a weakness.
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It's not.
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Indeed. It should be "incopetent/doesnt know the full power of the stones" and "Reality Stone's effects work as long he is close to its target".
