TF2 Upgrade Thread... again

[LandonTheGuy]

Does anyone react to or catch the ball?

in the invincible feat yes.

Here no, but there's no need to because we got already people who can keep up with saxton hale (aka the mercs) or the fact that saxton is capable of handling that speed at all doing complex actions like doing the pitcher for those balls.

 

[Eseseso]

1. It takes a frickton of continuous fire to kill the Tank, the mercs should not be fully scaling.

2. Bread Monster dominated the mercs.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

1. It takes a frickton of continuous fire to kill the Tank, the mercs should not be fully scaling.

2. Bread Monster dominated the mercs.

The merc's weapons can pretty easily hurt the Bread Monster.

 

[Eseseso]

The merc's weapons can pretty easily hurt the Bread Monster.

Not really, asides from Pyro's flames slightly hurting it, they couldn't do squat to the main body (the tentacles should not scale to the main body in durability) and needed a bomb to kill it

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Not really, asides from Pyro's flames slightly hurting it, they couldn't do squat to the main body (the tentacles should not scale to the main body in durability) and needed a bomb to kill it

Couldn't Scout hurt it?

 

[LandonTheGuy]

Not really, asides from Pyro's flames slightly hurting it, they couldn't do squat to the main body

sniper was hurting him
scout was staggering it
miss pauling was hurting it with her gun
And the mercs were taking a lot of punishment from it without too much backlash

(the tentacles should not scale to the main body in durability)

there's no reason to think that

1. It takes a frickton of continuous fire to kill the Tank, the mercs should not be fully scaling.

We got another calc that uses the same logic and it's accepted on the main page of the verse

 

[Rex_Eckles]

-A baseball feat - mach 2.487 to mach 12.438 (EVALUATED)

You forgot to update this, since the accepted value was Sub-Relativistic.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Heavy (can briefly tug with saxton hale)

Technically, that was with Maggie, but they should be comparable.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

Technically, that was with Maggie, but they should be comparable.

oh deam u right

mandela effect at it's finest lol

 

[AmonInChains]

-A baseball feat - 12,9 up to 324 tons of tnt (city block up to Multi city block) (EVALUATED)

This feat is from Mann Co. comics, which is a comic editorial (and more things) in the verse, not like the actual TF2 comics. They have fictional comics sells, his CEO was Saxone at some point, and hell, even Scout read that same comic in game. So yeah, ignoring it being an outlier is not an actual thing, just a comic FOR the characters.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

This feat is from Mann Co. comics, which is a comic editorial (and more things) in the verse, not like the actual TF2 comics. They have fictional comics sells, his CEO was Saxone at some point, and hell, even Scout read that same comic in game. So yeah, ignoring it being an outlier is not an actual thing, just a comic FOR the characters.

Alright.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

This feat is from Mann Co. comics, which is a comic editorial (and more things) in the verse, not like the actual TF2 comics. They have fictional comics sells,

That only tells me that someone killed a really high number of gorillas on the planet for making those comics, they have never been implied to be totally fictional stories.

These comics are canon to the story because they are connected to Bidwell big plan comic (whitch had in lore importance), and this is one of those comic books as Saxton in page 2 Saxton himself treats the whole story like a comic book story.

We have also a fate worse than chess (it has also a lore importance) whitch not only has a comic book cover formula that looks really similar to the other ones from his other comics (a fate worse than chess , Mailstorm), but it also stars saxton hale telling us how he tells stories.

The comicbocks inquestions are also used in the feats section in the current version of Saxton hale profile, so i never saw this being a problem.

Hell, the tf2 main comic books are heavly implied to be in universe comic books (ring of fired page 8 , catchup comic page 1)

his CEO was *Saxton at some point, and hell, even Scout read that same comic in game. So yeah, ignoring it being an outlier is not an actual thing, just a comic FOR the characters.

In conclusion, Saxton provably makes comicbooks from stuff that happened to him, or else 1/3 of the entire tf2 lore is just made up

 

[AmonInChains]

Will respond this later

 

[LandonTheGuy]

bump (deleted the laser weapons part cuz i'm not in the mood to deal with that)

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Class P Saxton Hale is based and Red Teampilled. 100% Agree

 

[Rex_Eckles]

class 10

You mean class 1, right?

 

[LandonTheGuy]

You mean class 1, right?

with the current scaling tfc heavy upscales medic who's class 5 so he gets class 10 for that (that is if the soldier calc doesn't get evaluated for some reason, if everything goes well we should get class 50 tfc heavy)

 

[LandonTheGuy]

Class P Saxton Hale is based and Red Teampilled. 100% Agree

i should get more people in here lol, it's a wasteland compared to the last ctr

regardless of that, Class P is not even that inconsistent considering we got already a Class M calc

 

[Rex_Eckles]

with the current scaling tfc heavy upscales medic who's class 5 so he gets class 10 for that (that is if the soldier calc doesn't get evaluated for some reason, if everything goes well we should get class 50 tfc heavy)

How close is the gap between Medic's Class 5 value and baseline Class 10?

 

[LandonTheGuy]

How close is the gap between Medic's Class 5 value and baseline Class 10?

class 5 is 1 up to 5 tons

 

[Rex_Eckles]

class 5 is 1 up to 5 tons

I'm pretty sure Class 5 comes from scaling to Heavy, which got axed when Heavy was upgraded to Class M and everyone just forgot to downgrade everyone to Class 1 via Soldier.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

I'm pretty sure Class 5 comes from scaling to Heavy, which got axed when Heavy was upgraded to Class M and everyone just forgot to downgrade everyone to Class 1 via Soldier.

they did fight siberian bears who are borderline class 5

 

[LandonTheGuy]

I'm pretty sure Class 5 comes from scaling to Heavy, which got axed when Heavy was upgraded to Class M and everyone just forgot to downgrade everyone to Class 1 via Soldier.

also soldier kinda did this and considering a bear is WAY above a human neck i think they should get to class 5

 

[LandonTheGuy]

did a calc a while ago about this

it's not evaluated, but maybe i'll try to get it evaluated considering it's really clean looking

 

[Rex_Eckles]

they did fight siberian bears who are borderline class 5

That really should be more clear on the profiles.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

That really should be more clear on the profiles.

provably

 

[LandonTheGuy]

Class P Saxton Hale is based and Red Teampilled. 100% Agree

shit we got low relativistic tf2 if everything goes well

 

[LandonTheGuy]

bump (Drite rejected the ls calc but there's maybe another thing that can help)

 

[LandonTheGuy]

bump (added 5-C hale with the iblowupthemoon)

 

[Rex_Eckles]

I agree with everything except scaling the sub-relativistic baseball to Hale’s combat/reaction speed. In my book, it should be his attack speed with thrown projectiles or something.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

I agree with everything except scaling the sub-relativistic baseball to Hale’s combat/reaction speed. In my book, it should be his attack speed with thrown projectiles or something.

Normally i would agree with you, but the feat is as such high degree that it wouldn't really matter.

The calc i've taken inspiration from (mark and nolan play baseball) take into account in the ls part that omniman is capable of trowing at those speed the ball (whitch i did too)

also saxton can percive his punches in the vsh mode so i guess it's something

 

[Rex_Eckles]

also saxton can percive his punches in the vsh mode so i guess it's something

You misunderstand, Saxton doesn't have to move his fists or the bat as nearly the same speed the ball flies at, since all of their mass combined far exceeds the ball's.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

Just because you hit a baseball at a speed doesn't mean you have to be swinging the baseball bat at those same speeds because the bat has more mass than the ball. This would only scale to Saxton's attack speed with thrown-projectiles.

you already said that

in the invincible feat yes.

Here no, but there's no need to because we got already people who can keep up with saxton hale (aka the mercs) or the fact that saxton is capable of handling that speed at all doing complex actions like doing the pitcher for those balls.

and i said this

 

[LandonTheGuy]

and regardless the same calc i inspired this to implies that nolan was doing that at the same speed with the ls end

 

[Rex_Eckles]

We’ll see.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

We’ll see.

wdym?

 

[Rex_Eckles]

wdym?

We'll see if any staff accepts that.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

We'll see if any staff accepts that.

ah, alright

 

[LandonTheGuy]

bump (added regeneration and longevity to hale's ability additions)

 

[Rex_Eckles]

-Spy gives scout an hand - 11726 kg (Class 25) (No evaluation needed)

I'm fine with "At least Class 1, possibly Class 25"