Tensura Light Novel Revision : Immortality For Primordial Demon

[Lesser_Goddess_Alexia]

Primordial Demon wholly exempt from the concept of death.

These demons boasted incredible powers, wholly exempt from the concept of death. It wasn’t impossible to eradicate them at the root, but it would require careful, intricate preparations—but instead of paying all those sacrifices, it was best to negotiate and win them over to your side. That, Ludora and Velgrynd believed, was the most advisable move to make against Guy in this game. (Volume 12, Official Translation)

Immortality Type 5 :

5: Deathless Immortality: Characters who exist unbound by conventional life or death, or do not exist at all, and thus cannot be traditionally killed. Typically, abilities such as Existence Erasure are needed to destroy them.

For the current light novel version, only Diablo got the profile. So, Diablo got Immortality Type 5, Immunity to death manipulation.

May also acquire resistance to conceptual manipulation.

 

[Catpija]

Agree

 

[Catpija]

Bump

 

[Megaraptor149]

it's fine for Immortality type 5, but put immunity to death manipulation in that profile I don't think it's that important even though it's fine

 

[Lesser_Goddess_Alexia]

Bump

 

[Helestias]

Agree

 

[Lesser_Goddess_Alexia]

Bump

 

[Satanichia_Chlammy_Mafahl]

seems fine

 

[Lesser_Goddess_Alexia]

Bump

 

[Everything12]

If we give them Type 5 we wouldn't give them Resistance to Death Manipulation, because redundant. Immunity to Death Manipulation is just a no go.

 

[Lesser_Goddess_Alexia]

If we give them Type 5 we wouldn't give them Resistance to Death Manipulation, because redundant. Immunity to Death Manipulation is just a no go.

Why?

Aren't they wholly exempt from the concept of death. so that they can have immunity to death manipulation?

 

[Shmooply]

I agree with Everything, it would be pretty redundant. It's like if you gave type 2 immortality to a character whose supernatural willpower let's them overcome attacks that would normally kill them. Type 5 immortality is just ordinary immortality with resistance to death hax slapped over it.

 

[Lesser_Goddess_Alexia]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

If we give them Type 5 we wouldn't give them Resistance to Death Manipulation, because redundant. Immunity to Death Manipulation is just a no go.

I agree with Everything, it would be pretty redundant. It's like if you gave type 2 immortality to a character whose supernatural willpower let's them overcome attacks that would normally kill them. Type 5 immortality is just ordinary immortality with resistance to death hax slapped over it.

I agree with this.

 

[Antvasima]

Anyway, the tags at the top of this thread are confusing. Which verse is this revision for exactly?

 

[Lesser_Goddess_Alexia]

Anyway, the tags at the top of this thread are confusing. Which verse is this revision for exactly?

Tensura/Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Light Novel version

 

[Lesser_Goddess_Alexia]

I agree with this.

So, only immortality type 5? What about resistance to Conceptual Manipulation?

 

[God900]

I agree with this CRT aswell

 

[Orioreeem]

Resistance to concept manipulation is also no go here. They don't lack their own concept but only concept of death.

 

[Antvasima]

Tensura/Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Light Novel version

Thank you. I adjusted the tags accordingly.

So, only immortality type 5? What about resistance to Conceptual Manipulation?

I do not know. Sorry.

 

[Everything12]

Resistance to concept manipulation is also no go here. They don't lack their own concept but only concept of death.

This.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Resistance to Concept Manipulation seems to have been rejected then.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Type 5 immortality is fine.

 

[Metalballrun]

This is probably fine. The same thing would apply to True Dragons, but they don't have any profiles yet.

 

[Tarang123]

Why?

Aren't they wholly exempt from the concept of death. so that they can have immunity to death manipulation?

Not really, you can still force death on them. It’s mostly cause of a lack of feats. Type 5 is already deathless immortality, so just keep it at that

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out Celestial.

 

[Lesser_Goddess_Alexia]

So, only Immortality Type 5 is accepted. I'll add it on Diablo's profile

 

[Lesser_Goddess_Alexia]

I've added it to Diablo's profile.

 

[God900]

Well eeeh, he could also have resistance to Conceptual Death Hax, just saying.

 

[Antvasima]

Should I close this thread now then?

 

[Lesser_Goddess_Alexia]

Should I close this thread now then?

Yeah, you can close it now

 

[God900]

Just quick:

Well eeeh, he could also have resistance to Conceptual Death Hax, just saying.

 

[Antvasima]

Well eeeh, he could also have resistance to Conceptual Death Hax, just saying.

Please remind me of the arguments for this.

 

[God900]

Please remind me of the arguments for this.

Lacking a concept of death means that no one would be able to manipulate your death Concept I think.

 

[Antvasima]

I am not sure. What do the rest of you think?

 

[Everything12]

No, this should be closed. The 'evidence' of that has already be rejected as that's not how we treat lacking a Concept of Death. It's Type 5 Immortality and nothing else. Same as every single other character who has been stated as lacking a Concept of Death on this Wiki has been given.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will close this thread then. Thank you for helping out.