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But would that be allowed? That's manga material which I was only using to supplement my question as the author doesn't really change much from WN other than adding more details/story development and abilities.
 
OpMasada said:
But would that be allowed? That's manga material which I was only using to supplement my question as the author doesn't really change much from WN other than adding more details/story development and abilities.
i guess yes also double posting also wouldn`t it mean ultimate skill users resist concept as well
 
Light novel Link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1SP2StQBOpqXUf41XTv9fkjfxsUiM11og Volume 3

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A demon with four wriggling arms. Named: Lesser Demon. That's the first time I've seen a demon race. I kind of want to eat it and obtain its abilities. ÒÇîThat monster is a lesser demon! Physical attacks won't work against it. Now, what will you do? You should give up now! Wounds from this thing might just kill you!ÒÇì The proctor exclaimed, somewhat excited. He's probably just bitter that I've defeated all the enemies so easily up until now. But what should I do? I don't really want to show my skills or magic. While I was pondering this, the lesser demon's eyes flashed red, and he started chanting magic. Then, he fired four fire balls at me. As expected of a B rank monster. Truly amazing. I easily dodge the attack, feeling them gaudily explode against the barrier behind me. However, did the three idiots really defeat this thing alone? ÒÇîHey, isn't a lesser demon something you challenge with a team?ÒÇì ÒÇîYeah. I was just thinking that.ÒÇì ÒÇîHey, hey. Defeating that alone is impossible. That's like a rank B+ test!ÒÇì I heard such exclamations. If I look closely at the proctor, his eyes are bloodshot. Hmph. I guess some hazing is to be expected. Whatever. Physical attacks aren't really effective. It's only half corporeal, after all. A demon race, it seems, is an ethereal being that possesses intelligence and obtains a body. The lesser demon was annoyed at the fact that I kept dodging its attacks, so it came at me with its four arms. I could simply eat it. I have no choice, let's envelop the sword with magic. A magic sword. Like I always do, I bring out a bit of my aura; and, I carefully infuse some into the sword as if not to be revealed as a monster. Now, all I need is to slash at it. The lesser demon was cut in half by my sword, turned into rubbish, and disappeared. ÒÇîYo. The end? Is that good enough for B rank?ÒÇì The audience was silent for a moment, but… ÒÇîAmazing~!!! Girl, you're so cool!ÒÇì ÒÇîTake your mask off and show us your face for a second!ÒÇì ÒÇîYou perverts! Don't mind them and form a party with us!ÒÇì And other similar grand statements resounded throughout the hall. What a ruckus. The proctor also seemed to have calmed down or something, saying ÒÇîWonderful! You pass! You pass with flying colors.ÒÇì
 
If the LN is made by the autor, or by his supervision, we need to take a proof of that, also if this is true, maybye he want to change or add something in the LN that he didnt on the WN, my opinion.

Tis is the same from the manga or even the anime.
 
Extreme123dz said:
If the LN is made by the autor, or by his supervision, we need to take a proof of that, also if this is true, maybye he want to change or add something in the LN that he didnt on the WN, my opinion.
Tis is the same from the manga or even the anime.
Yes it's made by the author. The manga is also under the author's supervision, with the author personally writing bonus material in the form of "Veldora's journal" (Veldora antics while sealed in rimuru's stomach)
 
As far as far as I can tell that "Light Novel" Google Drive is actually just the Web Novels translation compiled into PDFs with the LN's illustrations and cover added to them, as far as I know the Light Novel has only been translated up to volume 3 because they received a message from the author telling them to stop translating the LN.
 
Everything12 said:
As far as far as I can tell that "Light Novel" Google Drive is actually just the Web Novels translation compiled into PDFs with the LN's illustrations and cover added to them, as far as I know the Light Novel has only been translated up to volume 3 because they received a message from the author telling them to stop translating the LN.
......? Where did you get your info from because it's all wrong....and why would the author tell Yen Press to stop translating?
 
I have both the LN (the ones translated anyway) and those WN PDFs downloaded so I double checked, and I can't remember where I read about the author asking them to stop translating but I was speaking of fan translations not official ones and YenPress only has translations up to volume 8 while their are 9 volumes in the GDrive.
 
I've seen the argument on the nature of this series' magic from somewhere else. Far as i'm concerned regarding different media, it still fits. The manga can be used as a legitimate evidence.

Vol. 4 chapter 4, page 261 and 262 where this particular feat happened

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The same quotes in Chinese. I'm still not sure where in the hell those 2 guys manage to find it

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If anything. Only difference i can find is that the novel stated the demon was turned into dust after getting cleaved in half. While the manga just shows the demon getting cleaved in half without actually turning into dust. Maybe it still did, but the corpse was already partly off the screen by that point so we can't see it clearly
 
Idk about mixing different media.

The LN just expands on stuff from what i know, the general story is the same, but idk what our rules are on mixing different media like this, the WN is primarily being used now cause it's done and completely translated unlike the LN and manga.
 
OpMasada said:
A thread made me remember something about spirits:
By the way, great spirits did not have ego―they were masses of energy.
The Fire Spirit was just an excess fragment of the entire mass.
Like a monster, this fragment gained self awareness.
And this self-aware fragment of pure energy thus became a monster.


Great Spirits are concepts, the sentient spirits are fragments of concepts, does that mean Spirits are also conceptual? Although I think this may be a stretch, would that include everyone that ascends into a spirit?

In Manga the author seemed to have continued this logic by having Veldora mention ifrit's conceptual form.
As whether or not we should add LN to WN profile is debated, can you answer this question?
 
Idk, make a q&a thread about it, this is a general issue i also have with ln, wn and manga, that as well.

I will highlight the thread for you.
 
If ifrit is an excess fragment of the spirits who are conceptual, then ifrit is conceptual.

When you say ascend to a spirit, you mean spiritual life forms? Don't think they scale at all, spirits and spiritual life forms are different things.

Ifrit is a fragment of the great spirit of fire who is a concept, spirtual life forms have no relation to that unless i am forgettting something.
 
So now that the issue has been resolved, we can go ahead with adding the abilities.

Spirits like ifrit are concepts, and magic being an idea projected into reality gives everyone who can use magic, the ability to kill conceptual beings like ifrit.
 
This makes true dragons even harder to kill, even if you conceptual destroy them, they just come back later.

Gonna create a crt.
 
It's just really good resurrection.

They aren't regenerating, the die, and another version of them is born somewhere in the world.

I guess it works like mid-godly regen, but i am not really stuck on the defintions, either works for me.
 
They aren't resisting concept manipulation though, they do get conceptual destroyed, it's not that it doesn't work on them, they just come back as a different person somewhere else in the world later.

Anyway lets dsicuss this in the thread that i am making.
 
If spirits are conceptual and that includes those ascended into spirits, it would give rimuru mid-godly powerful enough to regenerate from conceptual existence erasure due to venom's ability.
 
He already has mid-godly.

Also i don't think all spirits are conceptual, spiritual lifeform is not the same as spirit.

Created the thread.
 
So..., its true that a friend of mine say that Elsword have inifnite time-lines/parallel world and multiverses? xD

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Someone saw the anime or its not the cap out yet?
 
@Exteme

Yes, from lore and describtion, thought only Ain and Add who can reach multiverse (thought Add at best reach Low 2-C only), and Ishmael and Henir.
 
So finally will get to the orc disaster stuff next episode.

Though the shizue stuff was way better than the manga and wn, still, hope the orc disaster stuff isn't as slow.
 
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