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Team Fortress General Discussion

it very likely has multiple variables that would lead to a different castle I dont think we can simply say the bombinomicon pulverized the castle because it looks different. Merasmus could have simply moved or gotten a different castle or he remodeled it
fair enough, LS is still good
 
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wait, what exactly upscales hale?
I would guess his overall scaling. if the yeti can tank everything the mercs throw at it w ease and stomp them, and then hale stomps that yeti its kind of a greater gap

though I think it has been done in his profile already but I cant remember
 
I would guess his overall scaling. if the yeti can tank everything the mercs throw at it w ease and stomp them, and then hale stomps that yeti its kind of a greater gap

though I think it has been done in his profile already but I cant remember
oh no ok it's fine, i thought you meant the yeti stomped hale, my bad
 
yeah it's a really good map (Patagonia, last stage), i think we might get some large building/city block level ap by the cart right?

Btw, merasmus moving his castle is a viable feat, right?

Alright so I am working on the patagonia map calc and question

for the explosion do we use the formula for explosions on air or explosions on the ground? I would guess the air formula since it would hit the iceberg upon exploding
 
Alright so I am working on the patagonia map calc and question

for the explosion do we use the formula for explosions on air or explosions on the ground? I would guess the air formula since it would hit the iceberg upon exploding
air formula should be ok, seends the resoults when you finish ok?
 
btw i got a non tf2 related question, i recently made this calc that could upgrade a character from 9-B to 9-A, what do i need to do to make it evaluate it? (first time i do stuff like this)
 
I've been trying to do a minor edit to TFC Demoman's profile, where his attack potency section includes his High 8-C detpacks, but my CRT hasn't gained any traction. Is there any way I can get it noticed so I can move onto other things?
 
Alright so I tried to calculate the explosion on the map and it didnt seem to do much w the explosion formula though would it be possible to calculate the energy based on the crater it makes?
 
Calculate the energy used to make the crater then use the Inverse Square Law.
I might do the inverse square law later because Im tired but I did the crater, for the few variations I have done (I had been using every classification of iceberg height from bergy bits to the biggest so I had like four or five variants of the results) it had landed me around 9-B to atmost 8-C
 
Calculate the energy used to make the crater then use the Inverse Square Law.
Hey so I calculated the crater which got me around 9-A to 8-C if I use the mid end ranges but I am a bit confused on the inverse square law

A ground explosion with a radius of 5 meters has exactly enough energy so when it hits a brick with an area of 0.07116953508 square meters and a volume of 0.0010692559 cubic meters, it vaporizes it. How much energy does this explosion hold?

So when looking at this example for an idea do I use the area caused by the crater and then do pulverization for it again? because as far as I see there is no indication of vaporization for ice unless we can use the 25700 J/CC value for it (I have been using pulverization for ice in the values)
 
Hey so I calculated the crater which got me around 9-A to 8-C if I use the mid end ranges but I am a bit confused on the inverse square law

A ground explosion with a radius of 5 meters has exactly enough energy so when it hits a brick with an area of 0.07116953508 square meters and a volume of 0.0010692559 cubic meters, it vaporizes it. How much energy does this explosion hold?

So when looking at this example for an idea do I use the area caused by the crater and then do pulverization for it again? because as far as I see there is no indication of vaporization for ice unless we can use the 25700 J/CC value for it (I have been using pulverization for ice in the values)
You find the surface area of the explosion which is usually a hemisphere, find the surface are of the crater, and the do - surface area of explosion / surface are of crater * energy used to create crater
 
You find the surface area of the explosion which is usually a hemisphere, find the surface are of the crater, and the do - surface area of explosion / surface are of crater * energy used to create crater
I see

I used a spherical cap for the crater so I will have to do one for hemisphere and get on to the formula

Ill post a blog when im done
 
yo man can i see the calc for the payload plz? i'm quiete curius of the resoults
ah sorry

havent been doing much for calcs in recent times due to life being busy but I do have the results for the explosion and crater atleast, havent done the inverse square law yet

So far in results via crater we have in three sizes

Small = 31,718,679.5034 joules (9-A)

Medium = 445,799,726.0539 joules (9-A)

Large = 2,486,798,715.6667 joules (8-C)

I narrowed to three since an Iceberg has different types of sizes
 
alright so I got back to doing the calc and I think I got it correctly

If it is correct then for a small iceberg we have reached around 56.7248494319 Gigajoules (13.557 tons of TNT, City Block)
 
alright so I got back to doing the calc and I think I got it correctly

If it is correct then for a small iceberg we have reached around 56.7248494319 Gigajoules (13.557 tons of TNT, City Block)
wait I think I did it a bit incorrectly with translating to answer as Im realizing that it would be megajoules not gigajoules

but I think im getting it
 

Alright so I got good news and bad news

Good news is the calc is done. bad news is that its not much with it ranging from small building to at most 1 tons of tnt in building level

The main issue I think is the usage of ice pulverization since it doesn't have a vaporization value so the results got lowered
 

Alright so I got good news and bad news

Good news is the calc is done. bad news is that its not much with it ranging from small building to at most 1 tons of tnt in building level
i mean it's still a good resoult regardless, not a 8-B upgrade but still a 0.2 tons of tnt upgrade form the previus interation of the calc so good job lad
The main issue I think is the usage of ice pulverization since it doesn't have a vaporization value so the results got lowered
can't we use the vaporization value of water? or am i sain something stupid?
 
i mean it's still a good resoult regardless, not a 8-B upgrade but still a 0.2 tons of tnt upgrade form the previus interation of the calc so good job lad

can't we use the vaporization value of water? or am i sain something stupid?
It'll upgrade them to 9-A+ regardless.
 
i mean it's still a good resoult regardless, not a 8-B upgrade but still a 0.2 tons of tnt upgrade form the previus interation of the calc so good job lad

can't we use the vaporization value of water? or am i sain something stupid?
I dont think we can particularly use vaporization on water for this as its not really the same thing

the only way to make the result go higher is by using the regular value of vaporization but Im not sure if I can use Vaporization value for ice since it has no value
 
i mean it's still a good resoult regardless, not a 8-B upgrade but still a 0.2 tons of tnt upgrade form the previus interation of the calc so good job lad

can't we use the vaporization value of water? or am i sain something stupid?
also
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What happened to the explosion that scout endured in meet the medic, didn't he face tank that? Not to mention he was in an incredibly bad state and still survived, and was able to be healed, doesn't that mean that he should scale to that as an at most? Why was it rejected? It's not that inconsistent.
 
I dont think we can particularly use vaporization on water for this as its not really the same thing

the only way to make the result go higher is by using the regular value of vaporization but Im not sure if I can use Vaporization value for ice since it has no value
ok, i did some research and i thought: can we just do the melting of the ice and the vaporization of the water separetly? By all tecnicality we are calculating the process of the ice being melted into water and then turned into gas, what do you think?
Bombs in the verse I suppose.
kind of, i mean we already got your high 8-C calc and the payload was already 0.8 Tons of tnt prior of this calc
 
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What happened to the explosion that scout endured in meet the medic, didn't he face tank that? Not to mention he was in an incredibly bad state and still survived, and was able to be healed, doesn't that mean that he should scale to that as an at most? Why was it rejected? It's not that inconsistent.
it wasn't rejected, the calc is a bit on discussion on how we should treat it but the feat was accepted (btw i'm the guy from reddit)
 
unrelated question, some months ago i broke my own hand punching a wall, where does that scale?

i made the calc and it said:

hypotetical volume (as far as i remember it effected 2x2x1 volume area)

51.6 * 4 = 206,4 Joules

I don't know if this is right cuz i did only 1 fracture as far as i remember so i don't know if this is a downgrade
 
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