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Can all of the logias survive this? Being crushed to this extent?
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Can all of the logias survive this? Being crushed to this extent?
As I said, it's getting CRT'd offI thought this was Versus thread, anyway you still need to fix that.
Can all of the logias survive this? Being crushed to this extent?
That was a bad example, Tatsumaki has low high regen negation because she can attack on cellular levelsNo diff
Cellular is High regen If im not wrongThat was a bad example, Tatsumaki has low high regen negation because she can attack on cellular levels
Like I said, only logias who can tank low high regen neg survive and can be thrown in water which basically ragdolls any DF userThen it should be a stalemate, she should have a massive range advantage and if only the logias survive the tk they can't damage her.
Low high* most OP logias are high midCellular is High regen If im not wrong
Cellular is High regen If im not wrong
Low-High: The ability to regenerate from having no solid parts of the body remaining. This can range from a puddle or drop of blood to even a single cell. For robots and machines, this can also include regenerating from a liquid state.
Mid-High: The ability to regenerate from having all biology completely incinerated. This includes being reduced to ash, dust, smoke, vapor, or plasma.
- Examples: Cell (Dragon Ball), Homunculi (Fullmetal Alchemist), Alucard (Hellsing), Wolverine (Marvel Comics)
High: The ability to regenerate from a few scattered or lone molecules, atoms, or sub-atomic particles.
- Examples: Majin Buu (Dragon Ball), Dark Matter (Kirby), Deadpool and Hulk (Marvel Comics), Ban (Nanatsu no Taizai), Logia Devil Fruit users such as Portgas D. Ace (One Piece)
They can damage her, she also slower than Kuma (he's faster with teleportation) and Crocodile (a logia) has dehydration hax and Ceaser (another logia) can remove her oxygen.Then it should be a stalemate, she should have a massive range advantage and if only the logias survive the tk they can't damage her.
This is false, her regeneration Negation isn't based on elemental regeneration, her's is biological.That was a bad example, Tatsumaki has low high regen negation because she can attack on cellular levels
Speed is equal, does any of these abilities have range of thousands of kilometers? She also has a barrier they'd have to bypass.They can damage her, she also slower than Kuma (he's faster with teleportation) and Crocodile (a logia) has dehydration hax and Ceaser (another logia) can remove her oxygen.
Can she even control elements? I don't recall her ever doing so.Tatsumaki has knowledge on fruits and haki so throwing logias into water will be a move Tatsumaki will try
She's still slower than most of them (because most characters are faster due to attack speed) and they have precognition on top of that. It doesn't matter if she has prior knowledge on their abilities. Kuma slaps her and GG.Tatsumaki has knowledge on fruits and haki so throwing logias into water will be a move Tatsumaki will try
Add it to Several characters who beat her or got beaten.And how exactly are we meant to add this to the One Piece verse profile?
She negate the regeneration, but Not their Intangbility.That was a bad example, Tatsumaki has low high regen negation because she can attack on cellular levels
You cannot equalize attack speed and speed amps.Speed is equal, does any of these abilities have range of thousands of kilometers? She also has a barrier they'd have to bypass.
Can crocodile even touch her? She has a passive barrier that covers her Dura sectionThey can damage her, she also slower than Kuma (he's faster with teleportation) and Crocodile (a logia) has dehydration hax and Ceaser (another logia) can remove her oxygen.
Tatsumaki has knowledge on fruits and haki so throwing logias into water will be a move Tatsumaki will try
This needs to be specified if that's the case.You cannot equalize attack speed and speed amps.
Allow me to ask you a question, how exactly are you imagining this fight? Kuma is once again faster than her, characters can foresee her actions and certain characters can counter a few of her abilities. Are you implying she starts off with crushing 60+ Characters? despite the fact that Kuma can simply teleport and slap her, or that people with precognition and future sight will instantly know what's planning and counter her accordingly.Can crocodile even touch her? She has a passive barrier that covers her Dura section
Yes it fully covers herIs it a full body barrier?
She already a child..Law Sugar/Bonney/Toki and Kuma carry
Kuma teleports to her, Law switches Kuma with Sugar/Bonney/Toki, they tag her and either turn her to a toy, a child, an old man, or temporal BFRs her
There are 12-30 characters faster than her
EhSpeed equal
Doesn't said shield get significantly weaker whenever she's attacking?Yes it fully covers her
Again, you cannot equalize speed amps and attack speed. You can only equalize movements speed, combat speed and reaction speed.
No, webcomic only.Doesn't said shield get significantly weaker whenever she's attacking?
Honestly we don't even need much Law himself could already hard counter her.
Im pretty sure it just means she can damage on a micro scale which is what cells are rather than being limited to just cells. The statement giving it to her never specifies that it's just biologicalThis is false, her regeneration Negation isn't based on elemental regeneration, her's is biological.
I don't see why telekinesis can't grab any of the elements, she commonly controls wind and easily blocks stuff that isn't exactly tangible in the same stuff as solids like Psykos' beamCan she even control elements? I don't recall her ever doing so.
Tatsumaki just has to think to use her telekinesis and if she has prior knowledge on abilities then why wouldn't she target the ones that can actually harm her round start via a thought based attack like Kuma and Law ect?She's still slower than most of them (because most characters are faster due to attack speed) and they have precognition on top of that. It doesn't matter if she has prior knowledge on their abilities. Kuma slaps her and GG.
If they can't regenerate then how do they come back from her attacks? If she breaks down crocodiles sand on a micro scale what does he do for example?She negate the regeneration, but Not their Intangbility.
Yes, similar to an auraIs it a full body barrier?
Idk, I was imagining that Tatsumaki with knowledge could grab them with thought based attacks and throw them in water or use thought based telekinesis to crush them straight away. Is precog really > thinking?Allow me to ask you a question, how exactly are you imagining this fight? Kuma is once again faster than her, characters can foresee her actions and certain characters can counter a few of her abilities. Are you implying she starts off with crushing 60+ Characters? despite the fact that Kuma can simply teleport and slap her, or that people with precognition and future sight will instantly know what's planning and counter her accordingly.
There are 12-30 characters faster than her (with insert faster attack speed or abilities), so naturally they will attack her first before she can and she needs to deal with all Characters at once, like Tempest said above. Are indeed capable of working together to beat a strong character.
NoShe already a child..
That weakness is webcomic only and is inconsistent since Tatsumaki applied several shields on multiple characters and had no problem oneshotting the character giving her 5-CDoesn't said shield get significantly weaker whenever she's attacking?
Honestly we don't even need much Law himself could already hard counter her.
I understand this but Tatsumaki in character starts by literally thinking and crushing her opponents.For example, if Luffy starts in his base. He will utterly blitz Tatsumaki with G2, since Tatsumaki was relative to Luffy in base (that was equalized) and due to speed amps Luffy's now far faster than before.
That's not how it works first off all, it doesn't need to specify That's how we treat regeneration Negation here. Here's is used on someone who uses biological regeneration, she's damaging them biological Ergo its applicable to biological and biological only. This wouldn't work on someone who regenerates via Supernatural means, magical means, elemental means and or spiritual means. You'd need to prove they'd work on the ones listed.Im pretty sure it just means she can damage on a micro scale which is what cells are rather than being limited to just cells. The statement giving it to her never specifies that it's just biological
Controlling wind =/= able to control every element. At best she'd be to control Kuzan, and dropping him into the ocean isn't a good idea considering he could just freeze it. And Psyko's beam isn't made of any particular element. I really think your just reaching for straws at this point.I don't see why telekinesis can't grab any of the elements, she commonly controls wind and easily blocks stuff that isn't exactly tangible in the same stuff as solids like Psykos' beam
FS hard counters, if they see the future, multiple of which can do as well as the majority of the characters having mind reading means they'll push her on the defensive for the most part.Precog doesn't matter if they can't dodge anyways
You do know they are faster than her thoughts-process? if you get blitzed or someone is faster than you, you won't even have the time to think about food or other things, speed may be equalized. But Speed amps and attack speed are still a thing, teleportation is pretty nasty. So in short, she gets killed before she get the time to think.Tatsumaki just has to think to use her telekinesis and if she has prior knowledge on abilities then why wouldn't she target the ones that can actually harm her round start via a thought based attack like Kuma and Law ect?
You are imagining it's that easy, You throw Aokiji in water he'll freeze the entire ocean with ease or Akainu vaporizes the entire ocean. Again, they can foresee what Tatsumaki is planning as well as they can read her minds. Like i said above, she gets utterly blitzed, but for argument's sake she ends up using her thought-based telekinesis to crush them straight away or thrown in water, do you have the slightest idea how many characters she's supposed to crush or throw in water? like 80+ Characters, she may have knowledge on some abilities but will she really going to memorize every single ability from character she deems irrelevant and useless, ultimately letting her guard down? before you say she'll control Aokiji, you can't just suddenly switch her strategy she's planning to throw the logia users in water, but that's a very useless strategy, Aokiji and Akainu are not the only ones who can deal with an ocean.Idk, I was imagining that Tatsumaki with knowledge could grab them with thought based attacks and throw them in water or use thought based telekinesis to crush them straight away. Is precog really > thinking?
How can they do any of this if they can't move? She can paralyze them as well with tk.You do know they are faster than her thoughts-process? if you get blitzed or someone is faster than you, you won't even have the time to think about food or other things, speed may be equalized. But Speed amps and attack speed are still a thing, teleportation is pretty nasty. So in short, she gets killed before she get the time to think.
You are imagining it's that easy, You throw Aokiji in water he'll freeze the entire ocean with ease or Akainu vaporizes the entire ocean. Again, they can foresee what's Tatsumaki is planning as well as they can read her minds. Like i said above, she gets utterly blitzed, but for argument's sake she ends up using her thought-based telekinesis to crush them straight away or thrown in water, do you have the slightest idea how many characters she's supposed to crush or throw in water? like 80+ Characters, she may have knowledge on some abilities but will she really going to memorize every single ability from character she deems irrelevant and useless, ultimately letting her guard down? before you say she'll control Aokiji, you can't just suddenly switch her strategy she's planning to throw the logia users in water, but that's a very useless strategy, Aokiji and Akainu are not the only ones who can deal with an ocean.
These characters have reacted to shit like teleporting and space hax.Telekinesis Grabbed isn't something you could possibly dodge. It's a directly, attacks.
She gets blitzed and one shot by Law and several others. And i'd hate to inform you, her cellular damage is minimal. She isn't crushing the opponent down to cells or anything even remotely similar.She stomping them by grabbing them and crushing them at cellular level, or either throwing them in the outer space, all at, the same time.
Kuzan freezes and Akainu and Ace vaporize.And if desires so she could just bring the sea into the land.