Speed is = and both are town level. Both are in character and are fighting in the ruins of jaku hospital
I assume that's also true of the Omnidroid V.9? (IIRC, it's not the strongest version.)The omnidroid serves as a distraction for Deku as he has to focus on two targets at once and the Omnidroid, as we know, is very persistent and deadly. The only way Mr. Incredible, who is stronger than Deku, could hurt the Omnidroid was by using it against itself iirc. which Deku might not think to do rigjt away.
Deku has less range and all Syndrome has to do is hit him with his energy beam thing to paralyze and then proceed to ragdoll him until he dies.
Then Deku claps he just has too many edges here even the toll of 45% likely doesn’t matter here Unless you plug a controller into the characters and make Deku fight stupid here he takes thisHe can't break out of it despite his LS advantage, but it relies on Syndrome actually hitting him with it. Deku has tons of experience with attacks like that from people like Nine, and he can predict whenever Syndrome tries to point at him.
Even Mr. Incredible was able to dodge the zero point energy when he was not off guard, and Deku has far higher intelligence feats than him.
For reference, Deku can predict the attacks and movements of people that can blitz him, let alone are equal to him.
Syndrome also has flight, & the Omnidroid itself also has Analytical Prediction.Assuming Syndrome has the Omnidroid:
Deku can one shot Syndrome with any attack from range with his air pressure or black whip, and will be able to out think the Omnidroid similar to how Mr. Incredible did given time. He will have an even easier time doing this in fact due to being able to fly, as well as having Analytical Prediction to predict when the Omnidroid is going to try and hit him. His analytical skills will also have him figure out Syndrome has the remote to the Omnidroid, which will make beating it even easier. Syndrome's zero point energy is countered by Deku's mobility and experience with laser like attacks from Nine, as well as his intelligence and planning.
The air cannon calced for AFO was done casually, while Shigaraki's was done while he was in a rage and going all out. Deku not only survived it, but tanked the hit point blank with little to no injury and shrugged off any effects from it in milliseconds to still catch Shigaraki leaping away with his black whip. So given the AP difference between the air cannon and syndrome is not even 2x, hits from either Syndrome or the Omnidroid won't effect Deku much given his immense pain tolerance and stamina. Deku can launch dozens of attacks with already broken limbs and ignore all pain operating as if at peak condition, so getting tossed a couple of times from attacks around his own AP aren't going to do much.
Voting Midoriya for inevitably figuring out Syndrome's remote/the Omnidroids weakness, being fully capable of one shotting Syndrome from range, having superior mobility via flight + analytical prediction to avoid attacks from Syndrome's zero point energy and his superior stamina that lets him take any hit these two can dish out and keep going.
Mr. Incredible wasn't caught off guard, Syndrome was the one caught off guard and he still caught Bob with it. It just goes to show he doesn't need much effort to catch people with it.I misremembered the scene, Mr. Incredible didn't dodge it directly. It should however be noted that syndrome has ONLY ever caught people when they were off guard with his zero point energy, so Deku dodging it by predicting Syndrome isn't contested.
Nobody in the film has ever dodged it, even at the point where he knew he had it when the barged in on him with Jack Jack. Him using it to disable others is far cry from him just using it for blasts, so I personally don't see evidence for Deku being able to dodge it, granted the amount of ease it takes for him to use it. (Just has to point his fingers)Mr. Incredible didn't know he had that ability at that point, and he never has used it against someone else with the opportunity to dodge it that knew of it. So i'd count it as off guard for not knowing of it
Yeah but there's still no evidence for them being able to dodge it because no character in the film has.When he barged in on Jack Jack, he was off guard. He wasn't expecting Syndrome to be there, and got hit with it the instant he opened the door.
He can analyze all he wants but that doesn't ever change the ease of Syndrome's ability, he needs to find a way around it but dodging it directly is simply a no.Deku has been able to analyze things far harder than someone pointing at him, and being stopped doesn't prevent him from thinking or reacting the instant he's out.
Happy you acknowledged that yes, Syndrome can catch Deku. But I made no commentary on the fight as a whole, in fact, I agree that Deku has it easier because Syndrome is so frail by comparison. I was just pointing out the only problem I had with your argument.Essentially, while Syndrome is fully capable of catching him, Deku's analytical prediction and intelligence will allow him to act near instantly when out of the zero point energy, and either knock Syndrome out quickly with air pressure or dodge out of the way from subsequent attacks until he uses air pressure.
You assume Syndrome won't dodge the attack in speed equalized. & while I agree what you propose seems IC, I'd dare say there's the possibility that if Syndrome does catch Deku, odds are since Deku's been so mobile & dangerous up to this point (Presuming it has took a while.) , & this hurts Syndrome's pride, he might be mad & just have the Omnidroid pummel Deku while he's helpless.So let's say Syndrome catches Deku in zero point energy. The instant he drops it after throwing Deku, which he always does as a part of his attacks, Deku can just launch a kick at Syndrome and knock him out with the aoe of his air pressure. Or he could kick away with float, predicting Syndrome to use the ability again before he uses it, then blast him with air pressure.
Essentially, while Syndrome is fully capable of catching him, Deku's analytical prediction and intelligence will allow him to act near instantly when out of the zero point energy, and either knock Syndrome out quickly with air pressure or dodge out of the way from subsequent attacks until he uses air pressure.
Deku is not at all new to attacks that orignate from a single gesture from the opponent. In fact, I believe he knows of at least 10 characters whose abilites are simply point and shoot, so this isn't anything he won't understand or analyze how to deal with. The fact that Deku can predict the movements and plans of characters faster than him as well, such as Gran Torino, is another benefit for him not getting hit by Syndrome more times than necessary.
Also Syndrome is a bragger, he's more liable to toss Deku around more than necessary than finish him off quickly. Which gives Deku more time to analyze his movements and predict them before they happen.
Other than Deku’s prediction, not much.What stops Syndrome from trapping him in zero point energy again?