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Superman vs sans
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you did not specify. SBA assumes this.
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ok so superman resists TK, so that option is out of the way, superman is able to calculate his oponents and the enviroment, and has range with heat vision
while sans can teleport, dodge faster with his higher reactions and attack faster with gaster blaster, while using extreme damaku and can teleport superman into the attacks + manipulating gravity to make superman not fly
voting for sans
while sans can teleport, dodge faster with his higher reactions and attack faster with gaster blaster, while using extreme damaku and can teleport superman into the attacks + manipulating gravity to make superman not fly
voting for sans
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Let's see, for Sans to attack he needs to move his arm, while Sups doesn't even need to move. As discussed, TK doesn't work, and that is Sans' initial move.
Sups then uses his Heat Vision and ends the day, as Sans doesn't usually teleport at first.
Voting Sups.
Sups then uses his Heat Vision and ends the day, as Sans doesn't usually teleport at first.
Voting Sups.
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Gonna give this one to Superman.
While I'm not sure on the lethality of getting hit by a single bone, Sans' ATK is so low I wouldn't put it past Superman -- even without resistance to Soul Hax -- to be able to withstand a few before going down. That's gonna be his biggest advantage, because the moment he gets hit and realizes 'oh shoot' the clock starts ticking for how long Sans is gonna last here.
Sure, Sans might be able to negate his flying via Gravity Manipulation, but Superman's incredibly acrobatic and can dodge whatever array of bones Sans throws at him. Gaster Blasters won't help much here either, Superman can easily counter with his Heat Vision and it's a beam-struggle Sans is not winning.
He only uses Blue Mode for a limited period of time, switching between the two to try and confuse his opponents -- but it'll just help Supes, giving him his flight back and letting him take control of the battlefield. Sans can only dodge a limited number of times, and Superman isn't on the 'i attack first then u attack' limitation of Undertale's combat.
Sans is constantly gonna be dodging terrain, Heat Vision, Super/Ice Breath (which also would work on the bones), and his own physicals when Supes tries to get in close. He might not even, considering how Sans can actually ignore his indestructible hide.
Anyways, Superman's way too smart to just stand there and get hit by everything that's thrown at him. All it takes is the skimming damage of a Gaster Blaster or a singular bone for the Big Blue to realize something ain't right here. Sans is gonna get tired trying to avid our favorite Kryptonian, and when he does?
Lights out.
While I'm not sure on the lethality of getting hit by a single bone, Sans' ATK is so low I wouldn't put it past Superman -- even without resistance to Soul Hax -- to be able to withstand a few before going down. That's gonna be his biggest advantage, because the moment he gets hit and realizes 'oh shoot' the clock starts ticking for how long Sans is gonna last here.
Sure, Sans might be able to negate his flying via Gravity Manipulation, but Superman's incredibly acrobatic and can dodge whatever array of bones Sans throws at him. Gaster Blasters won't help much here either, Superman can easily counter with his Heat Vision and it's a beam-struggle Sans is not winning.
He only uses Blue Mode for a limited period of time, switching between the two to try and confuse his opponents -- but it'll just help Supes, giving him his flight back and letting him take control of the battlefield. Sans can only dodge a limited number of times, and Superman isn't on the 'i attack first then u attack' limitation of Undertale's combat.
Sans is constantly gonna be dodging terrain, Heat Vision, Super/Ice Breath (which also would work on the bones), and his own physicals when Supes tries to get in close. He might not even, considering how Sans can actually ignore his indestructible hide.
Anyways, Superman's way too smart to just stand there and get hit by everything that's thrown at him. All it takes is the skimming damage of a Gaster Blaster or a singular bone for the Big Blue to realize something ain't right here. Sans is gonna get tired trying to avid our favorite Kryptonian, and when he does?
Lights out.
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Not a few, if supes stands in sans attacks even for a small amount of time he will die and get his soul crushed. It is faster than we think
Probably not since superman has shown no skill against danmaku if I recall, gaster blasters are gonna be faster than superman but you are right he can hit them with heat vision but sans can just spawn more if he does that
Sans will use the blue mode instantly after he sees superman ignoring the fact that superman will most likely die to the first danmaku unless he survives and blasts sans
Sans dodging constantly wont be a problem since his attacks are thought based and insane danmaku will make superman have to focus on dodging
Being smart has nothing to do with this unless superman has insane skill against danmaku he won't be able to dodge them remember frisk is also extremely skilled and can come back and know the future can still die to sans a ton of times. I will count your vote though since you made some great points
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You only seem to be agreeing with me on the first bit, but like I said once Supes realizes he can be hurt he's gonna be playing evasion.
Speed is equalized, both of them have the same attack speed. Even if they didn't, Heat Vision is faster than his Gaster Blasters. Sans' only way of bypassing it is to surround him.
His attacks being thought-based only constitutes summoning them. They don't have instant speed or anything like that, and again if you wanna go down that route Superman's attacks would be way faster.
Sans' attacks, while tricky, aren't as good as you might think either. Only reason Frisk dies a lot because we're ass at the game lmao. Either way, it's not like he's gonna be in Blue Mode for the entire fight, it's those moments of flight that lets Superman really start to tire him out, with his insane range and big AoE's.
ShionAH
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Gasterblasters are gonna be faster than superman so it is very likely for supes to be overwhelmed and get hit I also cannot see superman just spamming his vision to all the blasters since thats more of a homelander thing
They don't but that doesn't change the fact that sans can just summon even more than superman can handle and overwhelm him with danmaku that superman has no skill whatsoever to dodge.
Thats literally wrong. The wiki accepts sans danmaku as extremely strong and hard to dodge since frisk who knows the future can die to them, you are really underastimating the sans fight most people need like 50 tries to be able to get to phase 2 lmao, so theres a world where superman can dodge them unless you bring proof he can. You are going wayy away from supermans character.
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funny bone man wins once again FRA
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When was this? I couldn't find the thread you're thinking of
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Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc.
Gaster Blaster's won't be blitzing Superman, they're just straight lasers which Superman will have an easy time avoiding, or just out-right overpowering.
Superman doesn't have lacking as much in terms of acrobatics and versatility as you might think, he's used to fighting at super-speeds and reacting to opponents as fast or faster than he is, and similar Danmaku that Sans has used. While it is difficult to dodge, it's not something beyond Superman, not to mention he has numerous ways of simply ignoring or avoiding. Heat Vision, again, shreds through everything like butter, Super Breath scatters it, and Freeze Breath stops everything cold.
That's fair, I was a bit stupid with that reply. But everything else still stands, even if his agility is lacking his power-set more than makes up for it.
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this is why they will be faster
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What? No everything is equalized, so they're the same speed.
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Can't supes just like, snap his fingers and make a giant **** off Sonic boom or thunderclap or whatever or heat vision explosion, etc. He has methods to instant AOE, things that even with teleportation, wouldn't enable sans to dodge.
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Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier, so since the blasters are faster than sans, they will be faster than superman since the speed is equalized
Kazuma_kuwabara
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Invisibility/Intangibility: Superman can manipulate his atoms to phase through attacks and turn invisible.
The bones has to hit him first, stomp
Edit: okey, is in his second key, but he has "infinite willpower"
Should not be determination?
The bones has to hit him first, stomp
Edit: okey, is in his second key, but he has "infinite willpower"
Should not be determination?
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That lets him tank a bone or two without instantly dying.
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Alright. Superman one-shots with Heat Vision, since it's faster than Sans.
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sans leads with his strongest attack first so honestly this just ends up like literally any other sans thread
superman dies from the first attack because he doesn't know how to dodge it properly first try, or at best it ends up a draw
average sans vs match
superman dies from the first attack because he doesn't know how to dodge it properly first try, or at best it ends up a draw
average sans vs match
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sans definitely does not start with his strongest attack first. sure, he starts out pretty strong, but again it's nothing the Big Blue cannot handle.
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