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Superman vs Luke Skywalker
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@Glassman
Superman took hax from multiple higher-dimensional entities in the past.
Even a casual Mxyzptlk gives the middle finger to reality, physics, and logic. When Superman fought Mxyztplk's powers, Mxyzptlk was hellbent on erasing him from existence by any means necessary, including making Superman relive all of his deaths.
All of these failed.
A simple Force choke isn't doing jack.
Superman took hax from multiple higher-dimensional entities in the past.
Even a casual Mxyzptlk gives the middle finger to reality, physics, and logic. When Superman fought Mxyztplk's powers, Mxyzptlk was hellbent on erasing him from existence by any means necessary, including making Superman relive all of his deaths.
All of these failed.
A simple Force choke isn't doing jack.
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Superman via Resistance to Luke's Hax and Immense AP Advantage.
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People seem to forget or willfully omit that Mxy is never going serious on Supes.
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Even resisting casual Myx is extremely impressive. I'm pretty sure if anyone can resist Luke's Mind Hax, it's Superman. He also easily shrugs off his SAMM, and one-shots him.
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It wasn't force choke. It was shatterpoint.
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To be fair, resisting a guy who is at the top tier of High 2-A "casually" trying to kill you is still some pretty good hax resistance.
However, it's null and void just by the fact that Mxy has easily shown that he can bypass Superman's abilties and powers without even trying. He can easily kill Superman if he wanted too, and has shown that on multiple occasions. He just doesn't because he loves Superman and sees him as his ultimate challenge, so even when he wants him dead... he's still not gonna kill him.
Also Plot Armor.
However, it's null and void just by the fact that Mxy has easily shown that he can bypass Superman's abilties and powers without even trying. He can easily kill Superman if he wanted too, and has shown that on multiple occasions. He just doesn't because he loves Superman and sees him as his ultimate challenge, so even when he wants him dead... he's still not gonna kill him.
Also Plot Armor.
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Even then, it's probably at best an Outlier, because Mxy has shown the ability to not only turn off Superman's powers, but also kill him several times over if he so pleased. It's very inconsistent, especially considering that Mxy has done it casually on more than one occasio
So at best it's just a plot device, or Mxy still wasn't taking it that seriously (not even mentioning WF, because of dubious canon, where Mxy kills BILLIONS of Supermen with no trouble)
So yeah, even in context, it doesn't make sense.
So at best it's just a plot device, or Mxy still wasn't taking it that seriously (not even mentioning WF, because of dubious canon, where Mxy kills BILLIONS of Supermen with no trouble)
So yeah, even in context, it doesn't make sense.
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Changing to Luke
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Erase it from existence.
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You can just remove it yourself
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Superman for reasons above.
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Based of reasons that are false, so no.Keeweed said:
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Superman FRA.
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Superman fra.
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Like FRA. The only time Superman has resisted hax above his level seems to be an outlier.
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I've actually looked into it more, and Superman has shown mental resistance to people like Dominus as well, who is also pretty high up there on Multiversal+ of strength, and Superman has shown to be able to resist his mind games pretty consistently.
He's also been stated to have been able to resist mind games from people like Darkseid and Brainiac
So i'm actually kinda torn, and i think that he may have the ability to resist someone like Luke's mind hax if put in the right state. So i think i might change my vote to Superman for now, as outside of mind manipulation and matter manipulation Superman is superior in most other ways.
He's also been stated to have been able to resist mind games from people like Darkseid and Brainiac
So i'm actually kinda torn, and i think that he may have the ability to resist someone like Luke's mind hax if put in the right state. So i think i might change my vote to Superman for now, as outside of mind manipulation and matter manipulation Superman is superior in most other ways.
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Luke FRA
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Luke FRA.
This is going to become a game isn't it?
This is going to become a game isn't it?
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That looks like pre-crisis artwork, isn't that pre-crisis superman? If so, not valid considering post crisis superman.Jared1111 said:
Edit: IDK anything about superman.
Edit 2: Retracting my vote. I am going to think about this some more.
