Superman (DCEU) vs Thanos (MCU)

[Coolboy6]

Snyderverse Superman is used, Thanos with the power stone is used, speed is equalized
Superman:

Thanos: 7

 

[Coolboy6]

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[thesurvivlist]

Base Thanos is 6C while Superman is High 7A. Meaning superman would not even win against base Thanos with Speed Equalized so I doubt he could beat Power Stone Thanos which varies from 6C to 5A.

 

[Dalesean027]

For superman we use his possibly class Z LS in versus right? Or do we go with the class G?

 

[Coolboy6]

For superman we use his possibly class Z LS in versus right?

Yes

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Hmmm …….. Thanos only uses the Power Stone in moderation and only just enough energy. Supes is weaker than him so he would probably forgo it for the most part but once he uses it once and Supes takes a hit (cuz he flies non stop here) he just Ultrons the IG with HV and kites tf outta Thanos.

 

[Armorchompy]

Superman wouldn't even know the stone can be used without the Gauntlet. Plus Thanos far outranges with the Stone and if Superman tries to kite him he won't hesitate to use it.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

But Supes would know that the Gauntlet is what shoots beams so he lasers it. Thanos really doesn’t use the Stone too much. Besides straight beams that can be dodged quite easily. Vs Strange he fired it as a burst once before it got Mirror Dimension’d, vs Tony he used it to amp his hits and fired one beam that once Tony weaved to the side, he just gave up on using it, at the start he only used it for breaking the debris that hit him, pew pew’ day Quill a bit (which got easily dodged), and then KO’d the Guardians when they were neatly lined up for him. And the Moon but he never does that to people.

Clark is definitely dodging all of that and even if he gets hit a bunch or gets KO’d, sunlight literally wakes him up like when Namek slumped him in Smallville but seconds after he was turned over and got sun, he woke up. This man straight up died and came back because he got Vitamin D. Space BFR will be funny tbh.

 

[Armorchompy]

But Supes would know that the Gauntlet is what shoots beams so he lasers it.

The Gauntlet can withstand the 6-C feat, what makes you think Superman can destroy it?

Thanos really doesn’t use the Stone too much. Besides straight beams that can be dodged quite easily. Vs Strange he fired it as a burst once before it got Mirror Dimension’d, vs Tony he used it to amp his hits and fired one beam that once Tony weaved to the side, he just gave up on using it, at the start he only used it for breaking the debris that hit him, pew pew’ day Quill a bit (which got easily dodged), and then KO’d the Guardians when they were neatly lined up for him. And the Moon but he never does that to people.

If he is unable to use H2H the stone will by necessity be all he uses, and straight beams are still eventually gonna tag Superman, who's at an AP disadvantage, nevermind that Thanos is still a very versatile fighter and won't stick with a strategy that clearly isn't working.

Clark is definitely dodging all of that and even if he gets hit a bunch or gets KO’d, sunlight literally wakes him up like when Namek slumped him in Smallville but seconds after he was turned over and got sun, he woke up. This man straight up died and came back because he got Vitamin D. Space BFR will be funny tbh.

So what, there's a limit to that and it's not like Thanos can't just keep hitting him before he awakens again.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

The Gauntlet can withstand the 6-C feat, what makes you think Superman can destroy it?

Clark just melts it? His HV >>> 3.5 million K while neutron stars are around 1 million. Thanos or the Gauntlet being able to take more force doesn’t stop the Uru from being melted by something far hotter than what was used to forge it. It won’t take Clark long to realise the glowing purple stone on the shiny gauntlet that keeps getting pointed at him is the source of the color coordinated energy flying his way. Once he does, he melts the IG and at that point he can do whatever he wants to Thanos.

If he is unable to use H2H the stone will by necessity be all he uses, and straight beams are still eventually gonna tag Superman, who's at an AP disadvantage, nevermind that Thanos is still a very versatile fighter and won't stick with a strategy that clearly isn't working.

Okay and basically all he fires are bolts or beams that he only fires in straight lines and never sweeps them or AOEs his target. We’ve seen him have trouble hitting people with the Power Stone at range and he doesn’t switch up the strategy. If he doesn’t shoot at Clark, he has lost.

So what, there's a limit to that and it's not like Thanos can't just keep hitting him before he awakens again.

What time limit? Thanos knocking him out just means Clark wakes up seconds later. The first time Clark goes down, Thanos wouldn’t know to pour on the damage so Clark just gets back up and essentially has a free shot on Thanos to get rid of the IG which is the source of all his troubles.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Probably chin sack

 

[Armorchompy]

Clark just melts it? His HV >>> 3.5 million K while neutron stars are around 1 million. Thanos or the Gauntlet being able to take more force doesn’t stop the Uru from being melted by something far hotter than what was used to forge it. It won’t take Clark long to realise the glowing purple stone on the shiny gauntlet that keeps getting pointed at him is the source of the color coordinated energy flying his way. Once he does, he melts the IG and at that point he can do whatever he wants to Thanos.

Thanos can just grab the stone itself and use it directly, he's got the durability to do it. Plus the Gauntlet likely needed to stay in the neutron star for a half minute if Stormbreaker's creation is any indication.

Thanos can also counter Superman's beams with his own and his are much stronger, so he's not gonna be getting hit at range.

Okay and basically all he fires are bolts or beams that he only fires in straight lines and never sweeps them or AOEs his target. We’ve seen him have trouble hitting people with the Power Stone at range and he doesn’t switch up the strategy. If he doesn’t shoot at Clark, he has lost.

He doesn't switch up the strategy because 3/4 of them aren't even a threat and they're actively trying to overwhelm him and distract him. Here is just one target to focus on. Plus you said it yourself he's got AOE, mind explaining how Supes will dodge that with speed equalized? Honestly I doubt he'd manage to dodge Thanos' normal beams indefinitely.

Heck, mind explaining why Supes would dodge to begin with? He didn't dodge Steppenwolf's axe or anything, Thanos effectively has a free hit which will matter with his AP advantage.

What time limit? Thanos knocking him out just means Clark wakes up seconds later. The first time Clark goes down, Thanos wouldn’t know to pour on the damage so Clark just gets back up and essentially has a free shot on Thanos to get rid of the IG which is the source of all his troubles.

Why do you think Thanos would be satisfied with knocking him out lol, he's the mad titan, he's gonna go for the kill

 

[PhantomØ4]

Flight is being kind of overrated here, yeah. Specially with speed equal. Anyone with any decent skill in shooting things can predict repeated movement ahead, beyond the fact that Superman probably wouldn’t just move around like a fly around Thanos and occasionally try to shoot lasers from his eyes towards the gauntlet.

As I see it Superman and thanos would go into h2h combat where Superman quickly gets overwhelmed and tries to use his other abilities like heat vision but Thanos can probably survive it before closing in again and if Superman flies away and tries to heat Ray him again then the power stone could overpower him and it has enough power to probably even kill him. Alternatively Superman tries to BFR Thanos to space but in the way up Thanos just hits him with a power stone punch.

My vote is for Thanos. He is over 4 times as strong even without using the power stone and can afford more errors as well as far more attacks than Superman.

 

[Coolboy6]

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[Colonel_Krukov]

In his Infinity War mindset, he isn't that aggressive, but in Endgame we see the complete opposite.

For being able to take on Thor, Iron Man, and Captain America alone (Albeit with different weaponry) I doubt Superman stands to do better than the combined three Avengers.

I think he incaps Superman first off and doesn't see him as that much of a danger, but when he comes back from sunlight, Thanos will probably be annoyed and put him down for good. Voting Thanos.

 

[CBslayeR]

Heat vision is still a win condition here right? I'm probably gonna vote Thanos but if Supes has any win conditions

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Thanos can just grab the stone itself and use it directly, he's got the durability to do it. Plus the Gauntlet likely needed to stay in the neutron star for a half minute if Stormbreaker's creation is any indication.

And Clark’s is considerably hotter than the star that melts uru. Furnace lights up at around 0:57 but the base of the pot isn’t even hot yet, the uru is already deforming by 1:06 (you can hear the SFX for the melting) and at 1:11 we can clearly see a lot of it has become molten slag and 1:18/9 is just plain goo. That’s less than 9 seconds for it be affected by heat, 14 seconds at the most for the IG before it falls apart, and 21 seconds for to have the consistency of a warm slushy from being hit by 1 million K. Supes’ HV >>> Kryptonian metal > 3.5 million K > 1 million K Nidavellir forge > Uru. Just by assuming the difference in temp makes the melting process linear, Supes needs at most 4 seconds to make it fall apart.

Thanos can also counter Superman's beams with his own and his are much stronger, so he's not gonna be getting hit at range.

And Supes’ dodges given Thanos not using the Stone right.

He doesn't switch up the strategy because 3/4 of them aren't even a threat and they're actively trying to overwhelm him and distract him. Here is just one target to focus on. Plus you said it yourself he's got AOE, mind explaining how Supes will dodge that with speed equalized? Honestly I doubt he'd manage to dodge Thanos' normal beams indefinitely.

AoE he doesn’t use and has a range of a few meters? Also saying most weren’t threats doesn’t mean much when the two biggest threats in Tony and Strange both only had to deal with a straight beam and nothing else.

Heck, mind explaining why Supes would dodge to begin with? He didn't dodge Steppenwolf's axe or anything, Thanos effectively has a free hit which will matter with his AP advantage.

He didn’t dodge cuz he was blocking for Cyborg. Why did he dodge Stepp’s swing when he knew for a fact it couldn’t do anything? When he doesn’t need to save someone, he dodges.

Why do you think Thanos would be satisfied with knocking him out lol, he's the mad titan, he's gonna go for the kill

Why was Thanos satisfied with knocking out the Guardians? It’s not like he hasn’t fought those 3 maybe hours before when they had already tried to kill him then. This Thanos is the one who is fine with letting people live even if they have proven themselves to keep getting in his way. The only people he actually kills are Heimdall (who messed with his goal of killing half of the people on Thor’s ship by sending Hulk away), Loki (who he knows is a rat and backstabber) and Gamora (for the Soul Stone). Thanos doesn’t even bother killing Thor or Hulk, leaves Strange alive, uses Tony to bargain for the Time Stone, doesn’t kill a single person in Wakanda that didn’t require their death for a Stone etc. Even Cap survived a punch from Thanos.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Heat vision is still a win condition here right? I'm probably gonna vote Thanos but if Supes has any win conditions

Unless Thanos has a mother named Martha...

 

[Coolboy6]

0/3/0

 

[Armorchompy]

And Clark’s is considerably hotter than the star that melts uru. Furnace lights up at around 0:57 but the base of the pot isn’t even hot yet, the uru is already deforming by 1:06 (you can hear the SFX for the melting) and at 1:11 we can clearly see a lot of it has become molten slag and 1:18/9 is just plain goo. That’s less than 9 seconds for it be affected by heat, 14 seconds at the most for the IG before it falls apart, and 21 seconds for to have the consistency of a warm slushy from being hit by 1 million K. Supes’ HV >>> Kryptonian metal > 3.5 million K > 1 million K Nidavellir forge > Uru. Just by assuming the difference in temp makes the melting process linear, Supes needs at most 4 seconds to make it fall apart.

And I'm sure Thanos is just gonna sit there and smile peacefully for those four seconds.

And Supes’ dodges given Thanos not using the Stone right.

Ah yes, Superman's beams are always gonna hit without fail but Thanos' beams are easy as hell to dodge? You do realize Thanos has the skill advantage here, right? And that he can just lightly adjust the direction he's pointing to hit Superman no matter what he does- not that I recall any impressive dodging feats from Supes at all.

AoE he doesn’t use and has a range of a few meters? Also saying most weren’t threats doesn’t mean much when the two biggest threats in Tony and Strange both only had to deal with a straight beam and nothing else.

This is one hell of a strawman considering Thanos had other stones to use in that fight, and that he did indeed use much more creatively than "shoot beam". This guy has been fighting for thousands of years, it's stupid to assume he'll stick to a plan that doesn't work.

He didn’t dodge cuz he was blocking for Cyborg. Why did he dodge Stepp’s swing when he knew for a fact it couldn’t do anything? When he doesn’t need to save someone, he dodges.

He doesn't know Thanos can hurt him. Why would he take him seriously? And how did he know for a fact that Stepp couldn't hurt him?

Why was Thanos satisfied with knocking out the Guardians? It’s not like he hasn’t fought those 3 maybe hours before when they had already tried to kill him then. This Thanos is the one who is fine with letting people live even if they have proven themselves to keep getting in his way. The only people he actually kills are Heimdall (who messed with his goal of killing half of the people on Thor’s ship by sending Hulk away), Loki (who he knows is a rat and backstabber) and Gamora (for the Soul Stone). Thanos doesn’t even bother killing Thor or Hulk, leaves Strange alive, uses Tony to bargain for the Time Stone, doesn’t kill a single person in Wakanda that didn’t require their death for a Stone etc. Even Cap survived a punch from Thanos.

He kills those he actually deems a threat. He was gonna kill Tony, that much was very clear, he didn't use him for bargaining, Strange just interrupted him.

As for everyone else, Thanos is in a rush to complete the Gauntlet in IW, which takes precedence over everything else. Here, by SBA his primary goal is victory.

 

[Jimboyjuan12]

I guess, I'm voting Thanos for FRA.

 

[DarlingAurora]

Thanos FRA.

 

[Coolboy6]

Counted

 

[Vizer04]

Can't Superman freeze him?

 

[Dalesean027]

Can't Superman freeze him?

Considering Thanos used only the powerstone to nullify the mirror dimension I'm sure a little bit of freezing breath would be no problem to nullify also I vote Thanos FRA

 

[Coolboy6]

Counted

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Thanos FRA

 

[Coolboy6]

Counted and grace