Super needs a nerf

[Digupthehatchet]

Many inconsistencies which include but are not limited to: 1- Goku getting hurt by a bullet when in Dragon Ball both roshi and kid krillin were shot at and the bullets bounced off leaving only small temporary burns. 2- Freeza when he fought Toppo he charged a supernova and said it is strong enough to destroy an entire planet (what happened to him being universal??)

3- Krillin getting not only a small scar, but also needed surgery for his bullet wound.

4- Gohan not training for 7 years in Z made him lose a bit of strength. He became strong again when he fought Buu and even stronger in battle of gods. Then he stops training for 2 years and the loss of strength is suddenly way too much. I never understood that.

5- Future Trunks getting serious when he got blasted with rockets.

6- Mai surviving Goku Black's blast (I'm not buying this shit about him being suppressed).

7- Barry Kahn ******** all over the guy who beat Buu around.

8- Goku Black and Zamasu getting affected by smoke grenades and flash bangs. Nappa would walk over this shit like nothing.

9- This new villain Moro being strong enough to make Grand Kai use all his power, the same Grand Kai who's weaker than Buu who is weaker than SSJ3 buu saga Goku who is weaker than god level goku whos weaker than a bullet. Explain that.

10- Vegeta getting tased. Really that just destroys what power scalin is. Saiyan saga Vegeta was a far stronger and more ruthless guy than this pussy current one.

11- Goku getting hurt from getting slammed on ice when he fought broly.

12- Everyone fights on par with everyone. same strength, speed, durability, etc except when the plot needs to go further

13- fighting techniques don't mean shit anymore

I'd say more but I think this is enough for now. Now I'll show you feats that prove Dragon Ball king piccolo would shit on Jiren

1- He walked through a barrage of rockets without even flinching. Just walked through and laughed. Goku on the other hand got scared from rockets and gets hurt by bullets, but can stand up to jiren.

2- He isn't affected by this suppressed off guard bullshit, similar to all dragon ball characters.

So yeah I think Super needs a nerf

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

there is just a thing of PIS and some like 11 is goku getting hurt more of because broly was overpowering him or no 7 is because the alien gave more strength...this is brief and pretty sure more ppl will get to this.

 

[PaChi2]

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[Digupthehatchet]

there is just a thing of PIS and some like 11 is goku getting hurt more of because broly was overpowering him or no 7 is because the alien gave more strength...this is brief and pretty sure more ppl will get to this.

But it isn't brief, it happens in every single fight of every single character.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Have you ever heard of a little thing called ''Plot Induced Stupidity''?

 

[Therefir]

Are you seriously saying that we should downgrade Dragon Ball characters to Wall level because of these inconsistencies?

Edit: This thread should be closed.

 

[Digupthehatchet]

It isn't just used for plot, it's the entire ******* series. Name one time where Goku DIDN'T get hurt from someone weaker than him in Super.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Technically speaking getting hurt by someone weaker then you is fine, so long as they are not so weak that they cannot inflict chip damage, but I know what you mean.

 

[Digupthehatchet]

But that's the thing. The moment he became universal he left everyone behind, yet they could still hurt him. This is a huge factor in why I hate super.

 

[FateAlbane]

So does that mean we downgrade Saitama to below human level since he couldn't deal with a mosquito?

 

[Theglassman12]

Or that we should downgrade superman to athlete level cause he got knocked out by a bullet and had a hard time carrying fat lois lane? Or anyone that has a case of having some form of PIS cause of the plot? This isn't gonna go through regardless what you say.