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Super Mario General Discussion Thread.

Tsuguo Mogami and Yu Hayashi are credited as the voice actors of K Rool and Void Kong respectively in Bananza, and their names are also credited in Mario Kart World, and allegedly they don't voice anyone in the game currently, take that info into account for the future
 
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Anything I haven't scanned already, I have no plans to.

You are permitted to edit the profile to add scans, but it's not something I'M interested in doing, because scans are a pain in my ass.
Scans aren't optional, pain in the ass or not. You should add them.
 
Bananza stuff

Ngl I feel like the Banandium Root is an easy 5-B at least given K. Rool's statement that he would turn the world into mush and then eat it. Could also maybe intepret Void Kong's infinite gold as an infinite energy statement for a high end.
 
Bananza stuff

Ngl I feel like the Banandium Root is an easy 5-B at least given K. Rool's statement that he would turn the world into mush and then eat it. Could also maybe intepret Void Kong's infinite gold as an infinite energy statement for a high end.
TBF that could easily be over time for 5-B
 
REFERENCES aren't optional.

Unless it got ninja added with no announcement of course, in which case I'd ask where it's said scans are mandatory.
It's not said, but we functionally operate with requiring scans, unless scans are difficult to upload for some reason, and the reference is specific enough to easily find the feat.

This most frequently comes up with comic references.
 
It's not said, but we functionally operate with requiring scans, unless scans are difficult to upload for some reason, and the reference is specific enough to easily find the feat.

This most frequently comes up with comic references.
So it's not required, got it.

I'm not saying scans are bad, BTW, I'm saying they're a pain in the ass so unless I've specifically set aside time for it, I don't scan my stuff until prompted in a debate.
 
So it's not required, got it.

I'm not saying scans are bad, BTW, I'm saying they're a pain in the ass so unless I've specifically set aside time for it, I don't scan my stuff until prompted in a debate.
It's not required if you can meet those requirements.

Does this case? Video games usually don't have fine enough demarcations to make references sufficient, and don't usually run into issues with scans getting DMCA'd.

EDIT: Although console games can be hard to record, particularly for niche situations.
 
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Spoilers are for Bananza.
It's not required if you can meet those requirements.

Does this case? Video games usually don't have fine enough demarcations to make references sufficient, and don't usually run into issues with scans getting DMCA'd.
If it's not written anywhere it isn't required. I have better things to do with my time than search for a dozen YouTube videos that may or may not ACTUALLY show everything the boss does. I did that for K. Rool when I did him the first time and I do NOT feel like doing it again, if ya'll want to add scans, go ahead. But they're not required so I'm not doing them for non-extraordinary claims... you'll notice both plot manip and reality warping ARE scanned, for the simple fact I won't make an extraordinary claim without extraordinary evidence.
EDIT: Although console games can be hard to record, particularly for niche situations.
There's enough people who either AVGN'd it or found some other way to record the screen to say that the DK games don't apply to that niche scenario, there isn't a novel y'know lol
 
Well unless K.Rool can eat an entire planet's worth of bananas I think the implication is he will grow in size to eat it using the Root
He's High 6-A, he could probably do it. I'm half tempted to give him radiation ressitance since hed probably be eatinf 40,000 bananas in ten minutes so he'd be withstanding lethal radiation.
 
Tsuguo Mogami and Yu Hayashi are credited as the voice actors of K Rool and Void Kong respectively in Bananza, and their names are also credited in Mario Kart World, and allegedly they don't voice anyone in the game currently, take that info into account for the future
I opened this thinking it was fine because it said MKW spoiler, which I've beat, and you hit me with a actual DK spoiler.
The things I feel right now would get me PERMA BANNED holy shit.
 
I opened this thinking it was fine because it said MKW spoiler, which I've beat, and you hit me with a actual DK spoiler.
The things I feel right now would get me PERMA BANNED holy shit.
I didn't even notice that TBH, I've gone to great lengths to make sure people can't be spoiled from what I say or do and someone else spoils things lmfao
 
I didn't even notice that TBH, I've gone to great lengths to make sure people can't be spoiled from what I say or do and someone else spoils things lmfao
I'm actually mad.
I entered thread to say I've already calced a fuckton of feats (like a 40m ton LS feat, a bunch of nice AP feats, even got DK's size calced (he's massive, dude is over 3m in this), etc), and got hit with THE ******* spoiler of all time even tho I've managed to avoid seeing ANYTHING that wasn't in the directs....
It isn't fair bros that wasn't mario kart.....
 
If it's not written anywhere it isn't required.
You can't "it doesn't say that dogs can't play basketball" your way out of this one. If you do that, I will delete the page, because it is against the way we traditionally enforce our rules, and from this instruction you are clearly aware of that.

But hey, some staff think it merits inclusion, so it'll probably be discussed in the staff DMs and added to the rules in a few days.
 
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You can't "it doesn't say that dogs can't play basketball" your way out of this one. If you do that, I will delete the page, because it is against the way we traditionally enforce our rules.
I can't really continue this part without knowing if you specifically either don't care about being spoiled on funni monkey game or already finished said game.
But hey, some staff think it merits inclusion, so it'll probably be discussed in the staff DMs and added in a few days.
And hey, if that starts up and an announcement thread is made for it like it was with references, I'll bite the bullet, but until then I'm maintaining that scans aren't required, something you yourself stated in the announcement thread that refs were mandatory.
 
I can't really continue this part without knowing if you specifically either don't care about being spoiled on funni monkey game or already finished said game.
I don't care.
And hey, if that starts up and an announcement thread is made for it like it was with references, I'll bite the bullet, but until then I'm maintaining that scans aren't required, something you yourself stated in the announcement thread that refs were mandatory.
As long as you maintain that, I'll maintain that nothing in the rules says staff members can only delete pages in line with certain rules.

If you look at the broader context of that announcement, I say many things that indicate scans are generally expected, and references would help them function better:
In such scenarios, references will help us quickly grab hold of the required evidence because we'd know exactly where to find them.
While uploading pics to the wiki or imgur works to a certain extent, a normal viewer doesn't get the entire context from one or two scans. References will provide them an option to go and check whatever context they want for themselves.
I said then, and I say now, that scans aren't always required. This can be if references are specific enough and the content is difficult to upload, or if the claim is pretty self-explanatory/basic. Many of the claims you made on the page aren't like this despite lacking scans, so I would have to insist you include them.
 
even got DK's size calced
From what I can tell, there's a set of Donkey Kong Country trading cards Nintendo made back in the 90's that lists the characters' heights and weights.
D8O0r05XoAA_R-I.jpg:large

The Super Mario Bros canon is all kinds of jacked up, though, so I dunno if these are actually their heights. I've been thinking about calculating the heights of all the characters based upon their appearances like I did with Bowser, but I have no idea if and when I'll ever even get to that.
 
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Bananza spoilers, for those who care
I don't care.

As long as you maintain that, I'll maintain that nothing in the rules says staff members can only delete pages in line with certain rules.

If you look at the broader context of that announcement, I say many things that indicate scans are generally expected, and references would help them function better:

I said then, and I say now, that scans aren't always required. This can be if references are specific enough and the content is difficult to upload, or if the claim is pretty self-explanatory/basic. Many of the claims you made on the page aren't like this despite lacking scans, so I would have to insist you include them.
I'm not making a new page Agnaa, I'm revising K. Rool for his time in Bananza. If you want scans, I have been pretty clear-spoken that I'm fine with people fixing mistakes or adding scans, and I will always maintain that rule of thumb, I however am not fine with things that aren't written down attempting to be used, this is the equivalent of bringing in new hax into a versus thread not on the profile, and expecting said hax to be used.

I have no doubt that scans becoming mandatory would be accepted, but it isn't there right now and there hasn't been an announcement thread or anything saying they're mandatory, so they aren't and deleting a page for that reason is the height of power abuse.

If it's written down somewhere, or it's announced that in XYZ time from the announcement that scans will become mandatory, all I can do is grumble to myself, and there is staff support for it so it wouldn't even be hard to get accepted lol
 
I'm not making a new page Agnaa, I'm revising K. Rool for his time in Bananza. If you want scans, I have been pretty clear-spoken that I'm fine with people fixing mistakes or adding scans, and I will always maintain that rule of thumb, I however am not fine with things that aren't written down attempting to be used, this is the equivalent of bringing in new hax into a versus thread not on the profile, and expecting said hax to be used.

I have no doubt that scans becoming mandatory would be accepted, but it isn't there right now and there hasn't been an announcement thread or anything saying they're mandatory, so they aren't and deleting a page for that reason is the height of power abuse.

If it's written down somewhere, or it's announced that in XYZ time from the announcement that scans will become mandatory, all I can do is grumble to myself, and there is staff support for it so it wouldn't even be hard to get accepted lol
Then ig it depends on whether or not the revised page gets accepted in a CRT. Although, if it isn't provided, the thread could be immediately closed:
Content Revision Threads need to be supported by scans, quotes, video clips, accepted calculations, or any other direct proof that claimed events actually happened in the source material. In the absence of this evidence, CRTs may be closed without notice.

But really, I think your argument that it's power abuse is nonsensical.
  • "It's not written in the rules, so I don't have to follow it."
  • "The rules don't say when new pages can be deleted. So there's nothing stopping me from deleting it."
  • "That's power abuse!"
If that's power abuse, then so are 99% of page deletions in the site's history.

And like, it's not something outside of staff duties or our ordinary powers. Page deletions are regular, keeping pages high quality is in the legitimate interest of staff, I'm giving you ample warning and justification for this. I'm not doing something like mass-editing all your posts into nonsense because I hate you.

If you still think it's power abuse, you can report it to whichever authority you think would agree with you.
 
From what I can tell, there's a set of Donkey Kong Country trading cards Nintendo made back in the 90's that lists the characters' heights and weights.
D8O0r05XoAA_R-I.jpg:large

The Super Mario Bros canon is all kinds of jacked up, though, so I dunno if these are actually their heights. I've been thinking about calculating the heights of all the characters based upon their appearances like I did with Bowser, but I have no idea if and when I'll ever even get to that.
There is, but values change. Like that there, and in DK64, are different as just one example, both stated values.
DK in Bananza is just ******* MASSIVE for some reason, like Pauline looks small right? She isn't, she's legit normal kid height, like 1.5m, DK is just a huge boy.
It's evident too, just using the whistle to see distances and stuff, his jump alone is like 7m vertical.
 
Then ig it depends on whether or not the revised page gets accepted in a CRT. Although, if it isn't provided, the thread could be immediately closed:

TECHNICALLY there is a scan for all the new stuff, I just attached it to the references I used, as I normally do if I'm scanning I might add. I just never scanned the old stuff sans Plot Manipulation for obvious reasons.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:DaReaperMan/Seriously,_do_not_click_this,_DK_Bananza_spoilers

But really, I think your argument that it's power abuse is nonsensical.
  • "It's not written in the rules, so I don't have to follow it."
  • "The rules don't say when new pages can be deleted. So there's nothing stopping me from deleting it."
  • "That's power abuse!"
If that's power abuse, then so are 99% of page deletions in the site's history.

And like, it's not something outside of staff duties or our ordinary powers. Page deletions are regular, keeping pages high quality is in the legitimate interest of staff, I'm giving you ample warning and justification for this. I'm not doing something like mass-editing all your posts into nonsense because I hate you.

If you still think it's power abuse, you can report it to whichever authority you think would agree with you.
I mean to be fair most pages without references aren't instantly deleted so this would certainly be a change of pace for the better lmfao
 
Yeah if the scans are just missing for old stuff already on the page, that's fine.
 
There is, but values change. Like that there, and in DK64, are different as just one example, both stated values.
DK in Bananza is just ******* MASSIVE for some reason, like Pauline looks small right? She isn't, she's legit normal kid height, like 1.5m, DK is just a huge boy.
It's evident too, just using the whistle to see distances and stuff, his jump alone is like 7m vertical.
By the way when you get to YOU KNOW WHO, I would love a size calc.
 
So we can assume (Bananza Spoilers if you clicked thats your fault)
Marios earth is much larger than ours correct? Given the amount of layers there is no way its not Large planet right?
 
So we can assume (Bananza Spoilers if you clicked thats your fault)
Marios earth is much larger than ours correct? Given the amount of layers there is no way its not Large planet right?
Depends on how big each layer is, given there's 1,609 in total so on average each one would need to be roughly 1.8 km top to bottom to match the distance between our own planets surface and its core.
 
I opened this thinking it was fine because it said MKW spoiler, which I've beat, and you hit me with a actual DK spoiler.
The things I feel right now would get me PERMA BANNED holy shit.
Damn, shit, I'm sorry, I really should've put DK Bananza spoilers in the title instead of Mario Kart
 
Just finished, rough numbering for the big boy punch got me 125 gigatons. And there's a MHS feat in there too which K. Rool's jetpack upscales a shit ton given he overtook it in seconds
Also he's ******* massive, like so big I don't even buy it, but there's direct statements for some characters heights (Like Kong Elder is 40m, stated directly), so idk ig everyone is just huge.

K.Rool is like 20m tall

Besides that there's like a few dozen Class G feats, a few hundred Class M feats, actual hundreds of feats between High 8-C to 8-B, a dozen 8-A to 7-C feats.
Notable things would be a pretty hefty acid res for base DK can survive acid that instantly dissolves large amounts of metal, tho with damage , and a few niche haxes with some Bananzas like Time Slow, Transmutation, etc.

There might be better stuff due to the Root and King of Rot, K. Rool that could be way higher into tier 6 or very low 5, but I'm not sure if they scale to the tower feat yet (Could maybe get durability for it but surface area would gut it by like 1000x, tho it's probably so high it'd be tier 6 anyway), but idk, they might? I'd have to go over all the dialogue and yap to see if they say something explicit in regards to how K. Rool uses or absorbs its power.
 
K.Rool is like 20m tall
Damn K. Rool is like 4 times the size Bowser was in Odyessy lmao

In regards to the Bananza power-ups how we gonna treat them since DK needs Pauline to activate them? I'd assume we just make a team profile for him and Pauline? (BTW surprised nobodies attempted to make such a profile for the bros themselves) but would we also have them on his standard profile for completion, obviously making note he can't activate them without Pauline.
 
Damn K. Rool is like 4 times the size Bowser was in Odyessy lmao
Phase 3 is bigger, that's just standard height. Honestly DK is almost Koops size himself anyway so it checks out.
In regards to the Bananza power-ups how we gonna treat them since DK needs Pauline to activate them? I'd assume we just make a team profile for him and Pauline? (BTW surprised nobodies attempted to make such a profile for the bros themselves) but would we also have them on his standard profile for completion, obviously making note he can't activate them without Pauline.
Was talking with Armor, prob make Pauline a profile, and then slip each them into each other's standard equipment for that key. Kinda like Navi being in Link's equipment, and then just elaborate in tech section.
I've done a bit more number crunching since tho, the root feat might be tier 5 but I'm not sure, the rough values I plugged in gave tier 5, but rough and actually accurate ain't the same, I'm gonna need to redo the final to try to get exact values. Though I say that, but surface is 100% gonna gut it by like a magnitude so idk if it's an upgrade or just support in the end, won't know till I have it all sorted. For the high end anyway, the baby end is 6-B I already ran proper values for that one while factoring in all the lil caveats like the acceleration and continuous growth.
 
(BTW surprised nobodies attempted to make such a profile for the bros themselves)
Me as well, the match-up potential will be legendary if when the Bros get out of nigh-Baseline High 6-A. Unless there's some standard about needing 3 minimum, which I don't think there is?

That makes me question though, would that Team Page for then technically have two iterations? One for the regular bros and one for the Paper Bros?
 
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