Lou_change
He/Him- 10,152
- 5,393
I was going off memory that said a number of items would warrant damage boost due to doing extra damage to certain types of enemies
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Super Mario General Discussion Thread.
- Thread starter Shadowbokunohero
- Start date
Ghengiroo115
She/Her- 1,752
- 1,347
Anyone remember Boss Sumo Bro? Gotta be one of the most random enemies in the franchise. His only appearances are NSMBU (his debut), Origami King, Mario Golf World Tour, a Minecraft skin pack and a LEGO set of all things. Just an overall bizarre existence, which makes it funny how his design honestly goes pretty hard.
Lou_change
He/Him- 10,152
- 5,393
Yoshi's Island type character
- 6,796
- 7,116
Tectonic Shells (Koopa Troopa´s Durability Upgrade)
Since my other CRT still wasn´t evaluated. This should be simple enough to do right now We current rate a Koopa´s durability as Building level from scaling to their AP, however, we don´t have a value for their shells, even though they are consistently showed to be able to casually survive...
- 1,627
- 761
ZespeonGalaxy
He/Him- 1,568
- 1,022
Interesting video regarding Mario scaling. Not saying its good or bad but just thought it had some interesting takes.
Vyfourthaccount
He/Him- 1,354
- 224
I wonder when we'll have early mario games scaling (Arcade to 64)
ZespeonGalaxy
He/Him- 1,568
- 1,022
Tier 8 Ish if I had to guess. I'm fine with a varies rating for Mario lowkey
Vyfourthaccount
He/Him- 1,354
- 224
Sounds nice
- 2,754
- 500
If we include glitches and exploits, would there be a way to obtain enough multipliers for Mario to match Base Sonic?
Vyfourthaccount
He/Him- 1,354
- 224
we can't, it's game mechanics
- 2,754
- 500
No, the exact multiplier is game mechanics. It multiplying physicals isn't game mechanics.
Lou_change
He/Him- 10,152
- 5,393
I think sonic is low 2-C so no
- 6,796
- 7,116
I remember seeing every single one of these in the past, lol
Edit: The video f#cking died
I don´t think Mario canonically became stronger or weaker after this era so a scaling only for it would be unnecessary
But, if we ever have, he would probably be Tier 7 considering the Castle feats on SMW
- 6,053
- 1,857
Wooo yeah infinite speed BLJ!!!
- 2,818
- 1,712
It's an ad infinitum feat. Mario's backwards speed in Super Mario⁶⁴ has no limit, but he doesn't reach a top speed instantly, so if he theoretically kept accelerating backwards forever, his speed would only be forever approaching infinity without actually reaching it.
- 6,053
- 1,857
Nope he crosses infinite space stairs!It's an ad infinitum feat. Mario's backwards speed in Super Mario⁶⁴ has no limit, but he doesn't reach a top speed instantly, so if he theoretically kept accelerating backwards forever, his speed would only be forever approaching infinity without actually reaching it.
Vyfourthaccount
He/Him- 1,354
- 224
weIl I don't see nothing wrong with having a key for early mario since it would put more space for vs threads
Vyfourthaccount
He/Him- 1,354
- 224
Glitches are
- 6,053
- 1,857
Consistent with magic window, he appears in two places at once via speed.
- 2,818
- 1,712
I enjoyed watching the video. It looks like it took a lot of effort and the person made plenty of good points.
- 2,754
- 500
Does anyone have Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr's Journey? I'm making a massive Captain Goomba CRT but I don't have the game.
- 10,169
- 3,847
Do you need something unlikely to be present in a 100% completion?
(I had pondered recently if I should try to find footage of the camera panning for a player idling while they have a Shedinja out, so that I can get a screenshot of the player & Shedinja both in the same frame.)
Lou_change
He/Him- 10,152
- 5,393
I don't think in game play he has any new commands so you can probably just watch a cutscene compilation
- 2,754
- 500
No, just the 100% completion
- 15,986
- 11,277
- Thread starter
- #1,788
my ass wondering why im getting notifs for a mario thread.
- 6,796
- 7,116
- 11,572
- 10,863
funny timing, i just opened this thread surprised to see that you made this thread, just to see you forgot that you even did
ZespeonGalaxy
He/Him- 1,568
- 1,022
Eggman is winning btw (my heart tells me bowser wins however)
- 15,986
- 11,277
- Thread starter
- #1,792
funny timing, i just opened this thread surprised to see that you made this thread, just to see you forgot that you even did
DimeUhDozen
She/Her- 6,192
- 4,773
Just curious. Was Agnaa's argument for this calc ever resolved?
vsbattles.fandom.com
Or Firestorm's for this calc?
vsbattles.fandom.com
In one CRT, this feat was absolutely trashed.
vsbattles.fandom.com
I kinda hate to admit it, but Mario speed scaling is in a bit of trouble too. The Sub-Rel calcs are only done when the characters are boosted somehow, and an argument could be made for their reaction speed since Mario and Bowser slightly move their heads to react to the feats but even then, it's not a great argument. The only usable one is Rosa's Hyper Strike which is clear cut FTL+, but it's in troubling waters of being deemed an outlier. Once again, DK carries the entire verse on his back with his moon feat.
A quick Mario Galaxy speed feat
vsbattles.fandom.com
Or Firestorm's for this calc?
Mario crosses World 5
vsbattles.fandom.com
In one CRT, this feat was absolutely trashed.
Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga 3DS speed feat
vsbattles.fandom.com
I kinda hate to admit it, but Mario speed scaling is in a bit of trouble too. The Sub-Rel calcs are only done when the characters are boosted somehow, and an argument could be made for their reaction speed since Mario and Bowser slightly move their heads to react to the feats but even then, it's not a great argument. The only usable one is Rosa's Hyper Strike which is clear cut FTL+, but it's in troubling waters of being deemed an outlier. Once again, DK carries the entire verse on his back with his moon feat.
- 6,053
- 1,857
There is also the green comet as a feat
DimeUhDozen
She/Her- 6,192
- 4,773
Does Mario scale to the comets? I’m blanking on my recollection of SMG2.
- 6,053
- 1,857
Starship Mario and Comet Observatory use them as fuel, in the endgame Bowser’s galaxy generator is shown having caught the CO and is sucking it in (this is after having 120 stars within it, which is the same amount the green comet has)
DimeUhDozen
She/Her- 6,192
- 4,773
Are the comets ever shown to have like properties of making it go faster or contributing to speed? Idk, I think it might work, but I just want to be sure.
- 6,053
- 1,857
Well in the first and second game, collecting more stars allowed travel to farther and farther distances across the worlds, including the feat of traveling to Bowser’s galaxy reactor in the first game.
So, kind of?
So, kind of?
DimeUhDozen
She/Her- 6,192
- 4,773
Mm… miiight be kind of dubious. I’d recommend just calcing some lower end calcs just in case. Especially since the verse is kind of just… absolutely f’d in terms of travel speed. Like for all we know, Mario could be subsonic because all the profile shows is his combat speed.
Dust_Collector
They/Them- 7,744
- 8,733
Yeah it's really weird how we only rate their speed for combat and reactions but not their travel speed, I think there's some solid superhuman feats for their running speed strewn about.
Similar threads
