Subaru fights for his place in the strongest thread (round 1)

[Robo432343]

Yes the speed rules say this
“combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight, etc.

• Speed Amplification techniques are assumed to grant the same percentile of increase to a character's equalized speeds, as they would to their usual speeds.”

 

[Zabazab]

This might also mean that by that logic, Aruto's summoned avatar constructs will also retain their speed, no? Aruto has at least one for every one of his progrise keys with differing speed ranging from his relativistic+ to FTL+ and all of them are at least tier 6 too.

Ok so here's the thing about speed equalization.

A is human level combat speed with SoL reactions, B is Rela+ combat speed with FTL+ amp. Under speed equal, A remains the same, but B becomes human level combat speed, with a subsonic+ amp. This is because combat speed is what gets equalized, while other speeds are reduced relative to the previous speed. That FTL+ amp drops down to an amp that's just 20x human level speed. This is why JoJo Stands are broken.

Essentially, Beatrice blitzes Kamen Rider to hell & back, by millions of times. Also, victories caused by equal speed due to the slower character gaining a blitz they would not otherwise have are considered invalid and cannot be added to profiles. Idk about the strongest thread though.

 

[Shadowslash125]

There is absolutely nothing zero one can do now then. Speedblitzed to oblivion.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Ok so here's the thing about speed equalization.

A is human level combat speed with SoL reactions, B is Rela+ combat speed with FTL+ amp. Under speed equal, A remains the same, but B becomes human level combat speed, with a subsonic+ amp. This is because combat speed is what gets equalized, while other speeds are reduced relative to the previous speed. That FTL+ amp drops down to an amp that's just 20x human level speed. This is why JoJo Stands are broken.

Essentially, Beatrice blitzes Kamen Rider to hell & back, by millions of times. Also, victories caused by equal speed due to the slower character gaining a blitz they would not otherwise have are considered invalid and cannot be added to profiles. Idk about the strongest thread though.

Speed equal is one of 2 ways to get a win (which is why it will only allow you to be the same rank as the losing character) and it's not like we are trying to get this added to the profiles, So I think this is valid
(He would get that rank anyways because he beats courier fair and square )

 

[Robo432343]

if zero one defeats subaru if speed is not equal then they share a spot
but subaru wins if speed is equal

 

[Shadowslash125]

if zero one defeats subaru if speed is not equal then they share a spot
but subaru wins if speed is equal

Without speed equal, Zero One will punt both Subaru and Beatrice.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Without speed equal, Zero One will punt both Subaru and Beatrice.

Probably an incon or Subaru victory tbh since he can't get rid of rbd and Subaru can still SI or kill himself

 

[Shadowslash125]

Those are possible wincons but haha funny precog and summon energy constructs go brr.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Probably an incon or Subaru victory tbh since he can't get rid of rbd

Subaru can just be knock out, Kamen don't need to get rid of RBD.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Yeah That's basically how I see speed unequal going

 

[Fezzih_007]

Btw, do we need to vote? I not sure whats the rules in versus threads for the strongest list are.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Me neither, in fact it's the first time I've heard of Aruto being in there.
I do know they'll be sharing a spot.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Btw, do we need to vote? I not sure whats the rules in versus threads for the strongest list are.

Not necessarily we just need to reach an agreement and I think it's pretty unanimous, right?
Well we should vote so it's clear that it IS unanimous
My vote is obviously for Subaru

 

[BERRIES555]

When it comes to these lists, do we need to specify if speed is equal or not? I favor Suburu if speed was equal since I think Aruto would instantly stop fighting if Suburu doesn’t want to fight. But I think Aruto could quickly incap if speed was unequal

 

[BERRIES555]

Me neither, in fact it's the first time I've heard of Aruto being in there.
I do know they'll be sharing a spot.

Yeah this is the first time I heard anything about us being on the Strongest top 15 list

 

[Shadowslash125]

Yeah this is the first time I heard anything about us being on the Strongest top 15 list

I am aware of some other riders but not Zero One himself in 9-B.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Strange, who put him there then?

 

[Shadowslash125]

Tried skimming the thread with the search function to find nothing, and it also seems like it appeared at the latest non-smurf thread too because the other threads didn't have him.

 

[BERRIES555]

Strange, who put him there then?

Aruto definitely is a strong 9-B even without his armors but there’s a very very big reason why we don’t use him anymore and it’s cause absolutely no one, even if KR supporters, like using Aruto in debates. We haven’t used him in like a year and the people who did were inactive. So yeah like, we genuinely don’t know who put him there

 

[Shadowslash125]

Everyone is holding me back from matching any Z1 riders lol
His precog and scaling chain is far too big of a wall of text and non-rider guys would get confused and gloss over it, turning the matchup to be unnecessarily heated.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

So it's similar to ReZero skillslop!!

 

[Shadowslash125]

Haven't got around to witness nor experience Re-Zero Skillslop myself (this falls into speed stuff so this doesn't count).
So probably though I know I'll eventually get around to it soon with a future matchup.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Haven't got around to witness nor experience Re-Zero Skillslop myself (this falls into speed stuff so this doesn't count).
So probably though I know I'll eventually get around to it soon with a future matchup.

If you want to witness the TRUE skillslop then make a matchup vs anybody over the high tiers (so anybody over peak Wilhelm, Theresia, Cecilus or Halibel's level)

 

[Shadowslash125]

What are those four's tiers btw?
Also yea Subaru and Beako FRA.

 

[Shadowslash125]

so anybody over peak Wilhelm, Theresia, Cecilus or Halibel's level

So around 6-C to High 6-A. Saber and Zero One walls of texts are at 6-C too.
This battle will be legendary!!!

 

[BERRIES555]

If Z1 and Re:Zero end up having a debate I think I’d look at the thread, close of the app and decide right then and there to quit debating as a whole

 

[Shadowslash125]

I concede, I will not cook that up.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

I concede, I will not cook that up.

do it (you will die the moment it starts raining in that thread)

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

If Z1 and Re:Zero end up having a debate I think I’d look at the thread, close of the app and decide right then and there to quit debating as a whole

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