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Strongest/Weakest Manipulations
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Plot, Fate, Law and Probability Manipulation >>>> High-end Information Manipulation >>>>>>>>>> anything else
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Conceptual manip is above all of those
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Forgot about that, but yeah. That too.
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Memes aside, I challenge anyone to find a weaker power then Fungus Manipulation
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@Dark
I know a guy with Existence Erasure that only works on himself.
Does that count?
I know a guy with Existence Erasure that only works on himself.
Does that count?
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@King
High-end Info manip is probably above probability. By a lot. If you are able to alter the fundamental information of existence, you automatically have Probability manip, as the probability of something is, in and of itself, information that can be altered. Same with Law and Fate.
Plot is pretty high, same with Higher-Dimensional, and Concept is one of, if not the, strongest manips out there.
The weakest? A super-niche one like Cloth Manipulation or Animal Manipulation. Without especially powerful cloth or animals those abilities cap at like 9-B and can't bypass durability the vast majority of the time.
High-end Info manip is probably above probability. By a lot. If you are able to alter the fundamental information of existence, you automatically have Probability manip, as the probability of something is, in and of itself, information that can be altered. Same with Law and Fate.
Plot is pretty high, same with Higher-Dimensional, and Concept is one of, if not the, strongest manips out there.
The weakest? A super-niche one like Cloth Manipulation or Animal Manipulation. Without especially powerful cloth or animals those abilities cap at like 9-B and can't bypass durability the vast majority of the time.
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Lower dimensional Manipulation ovo
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I actually started this meme, and it makes me feel good about myself.Darkanine said:
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I mean...if you can remove lower dimensional properties of stuff, like removing points and lines, you can probably make stuff collapse into...I don't even know what.WeeklyBattles said:
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@Dark
If you removed points and lines you still wouldn't affect us. Everything we know is 3-D; removing points isn't going to make anything collapse because points don't interact with anything 3-D.
Unless you want to yank 1-D Strings into here, but at that point you already hit Quantum Manipulation, so...
If you removed points and lines you still wouldn't affect us. Everything we know is 3-D; removing points isn't going to make anything collapse because points don't interact with anything 3-D.
Unless you want to yank 1-D Strings into here, but at that point you already hit Quantum Manipulation, so...
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I remember a game where a guy had a switch that let him travel to higher or lower dimensions.
He went to the 1st dimension.
That went well.
He went to the 1st dimension.
That went well.
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Hydlide? I know that happens at one point.The Everlasting said:
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@Dark
Stickman adventures or something.
I think it's flash games.
Stickman adventures or something.
I think it's flash games.
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@Js
Well you wouldn't feel anything. The 1st dimension is literally just a line. No nerves, no body, no matter. Matter even all the smallest scale requires 3-D existence. 2-D is already unfathomably low, and 1-D is even lower than that.
But hey dust manipulation doesn't sound that bad... Just get it into their mouths and suffocate the target.
Well you wouldn't feel anything. The 1st dimension is literally just a line. No nerves, no body, no matter. Matter even all the smallest scale requires 3-D existence. 2-D is already unfathomably low, and 1-D is even lower than that.
But hey dust manipulation doesn't sound that bad... Just get it into their mouths and suffocate the target.
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There's a Star Wars character who can use dust particles to completely erase a person's memories.
So lol.
So lol.
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Wait. How.
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Sending it through their eyes to manipulate their brain.
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What the actual... that has to be a Sith, right? That is really messed up. Also how does erasing specific memories work? I guess they have a better understanding of the brain, but targeting specific memories seems so outlandish without a supernatural influence.
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Hey, Lower-Dimensional Manipulation / BFR can be pretty useful
there's a webcomic character that can BFR stuff to a 0-dimensional universe and bring them back (thanks Inti)
there's a webcomic character that can BFR stuff to a 0-dimensional universe and bring them back (thanks Inti)
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I mean, memories are determined by the brain. By altering it she erased them all.Assaltwaffle said:
And to be fair it was temporary.
Combining that with her large-scale illusions (And I mean like, entire caverns and ravines) that would persist for a century, and she'd be freaking deadly in a vs. match.
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Jesus Christ Star Was is insane sometimes.
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@Ever
The large-scale illusions sound like what Braccus Rex can do. What tier is she? That could be a good Matchup...
Also I know memories are determined by the brain, but how the brain store information is still extremely foreign to us. We know specific areas that hold certain types of information and their functions, but we are REALLY far out from being able to find and change a specific memory. Completely wiping memories and emotion is probably doable by targeting the frontal lobe, but that isn't going to be precise at all.
The large-scale illusions sound like what Braccus Rex can do. What tier is she? That could be a good Matchup...
Also I know memories are determined by the brain, but how the brain store information is still extremely foreign to us. We know specific areas that hold certain types of information and their functions, but we are REALLY far out from being able to find and change a specific memory. Completely wiping memories and emotion is probably doable by targeting the frontal lobe, but that isn't going to be precise at all.
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@Assalt
At least Low 6-B.
Still, memory wipe + illusions = win via incapacitation.
At least Low 6-B.
Still, memory wipe + illusions = win via incapacitation.
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Wouldn't work on Braccus. He is immune to such things as long as his magic resistance (granted from his armor) is unbroken. And it doesn't matter that "it doesn't hit armor," because he can stop Mind Control and other attacks that wouldn't hit armor.
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I just meant in general vs. matches, obviously wouldn't work on Braccus in general.
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My fault. Thought you meant she could beat Braccus.
Does she have a page?
Does she have a page?
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Not yet, I'm almost done with the book she's starring in (I have like, 40 pages left) so I'll be able to get on it soon soon. Probably Thursday or Friday.
And then I need to read the Yuuzhan Vong series, which is 1.7 million words long...
And then I need to read the Yuuzhan Vong series, which is 1.7 million words long...
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