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STRONGEST VERSES IN FICTION?
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Yes, prolly
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Axiom Manipulation
The power to manipulate axioms. Sub-power of Conceptual Lordship and Logic Manipulation. Variation of Truth Manipulation. Not to be confused with Principle Manipulation. The users can create, change and destroy axioms - the fundamental, self-evident truths that define the most basic logic of...
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I wonder, if your universe is 3-D and you use axiom manipulation to create an axiom that says the universe is berkeley cardinal dimensional, and the universe becomes a berkeley cardinal dimensional construct from a 3-D one, are you tier 0 via axiom manipulation?
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Bro, the Outer Gods being undefinable is their whole shtick.
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According to this wiki yes. Because your hax worked on a Tier 0 scale.Axiom Manipulation
The power to manipulate axioms. Sub-power of Conceptual Lordship and Logic Manipulation. Variation of Truth Manipulation. Not to be confused with Principle Manipulation. The users can create, change and destroy axioms - the fundamental, self-evident truths that define the most basic logic of...
I wonder, if your universe is 3-D and you use axiom manipulation to create an axiom that says the universe is berkeley cardinal dimensional, and the universe becomes a berkeley cardinal dimensional construct from a 3-D one, are you tier 0 via axiom manipulation?
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isn't that the same as one punch being saitama's whole point?
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Not really. I can see why you make that comparison, but even Saitama in the series doesn't always end a fight in one punch.
Another thing is that the outer gods are consistently described as scaling from places where time and space don't even exist, and where the self becomes irrelevent. Not to mention Yog-Sothoth encompassing literally everything, including the other Outer Gods as he IS everything.
Yog-Sothoth is essentially a more brief and concise version of the Mathiverse, but instead actually scales from High 1-As. Whereas the Mathiverse encompasses what?
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The main argument is flatterland is written by a mathematician who should have great knowledge of maths and cardinal numbers. Flatterland has things like higher dimensions and lower dimensions, with mathiverse encompassing all of maths and it's all possible extensions and all possible mathematical constructs it should logically be above even berkeley cardinal dimensional constructs.
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Yes I have my own problems with that argument.
While it is true that Flatterland was made by someone who actually knows what they are talking about, why should that matter? The difference it makes is that Flatterland has a much more concrete justification for what it exactly is and thus is easier to index. Since its statistics have been explained more clearly.
Yog-Sothoth is, as I said before, explained in a more simple way than the mathiverse, but it achieves the same thing really, particularly in regards to the fact it scales above High 1-A entities who themselves already transcend "logic" from the perspective of other High 1-As like Hypnos.
Regardless, the main thing is that it is possible to create something more powerful than the mathiverse by this wiki's standards. As others have said before, you can always just say a more powerful entity exists above it.
While it is true that Flatterland was made by someone who actually knows what they are talking about, why should that matter? The difference it makes is that Flatterland has a much more concrete justification for what it exactly is and thus is easier to index. Since its statistics have been explained more clearly.
Yog-Sothoth is, as I said before, explained in a more simple way than the mathiverse, but it achieves the same thing really, particularly in regards to the fact it scales above High 1-A entities who themselves already transcend "logic" from the perspective of other High 1-As like Hypnos.
Regardless, the main thing is that it is possible to create something more powerful than the mathiverse by this wiki's standards. As others have said before, you can always just say a more powerful entity exists above it.
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Honestly verses with the most self serving "no you" logic are the strongest essentially any fanfic and self insert OCs
Either way I'm the kind of person who believes anything 1-A or higher is just a load of BS that usually sets the unhealthy mentality of only caring about a work of fiction's power level and very little else but that's just my PoVcasing point this thread.
Either way I'm the kind of person who believes anything 1-A or higher is just a load of BS that usually sets the unhealthy mentality of only caring about a work of fiction's power level and very little else but that's just my PoV
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Yeah, the verses that the author uses a lot of weird drugs and start writting the plot
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Then we start hearing stupid concepts like scott snyder darkseid vs grant Morrison darkseid
weird.
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Image is a multiverse though, and marvel's multiver is bigger then DC'sDC is the strongest verse in fiction anyway.
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Wait, so CM got downgraded? Guess twin peaks is the strongest now, then. And mathiverse isn't a character, it is a location tho.
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Apparently there will be a crt soon to downgrade Twin Peaks as well, so if that ends up going through than CM will go right back to being the most powerful verse again.
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I mean, it will still have an infinite number of high 1-As.
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lol. how did twin hit 0 anywayApparently there will be a crt soon to downgrade Twin Peaks as well, so if that ends up going through than CM will go right back to being the most powerful verse again.
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Apparently it's all supplemental stuff. A lot of information seems to be from the book "The Secret History of Twin Peaks". As someone who watched the show and the movie, whatever's in that book must have some damn good justification for where it is cause the show certainly doesn't, even though I love the series.
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The White Light: cough cough
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ruckerverse? It does not have an official page tho.
Funny how white light is a node to the clear light, another tier 0 from twin peaks according to this wikia
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Jokes on you, I checked the link before going to it. You can't fool me with such petty tricks you pathetic mortal
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Your puny tricks don't work on my slow potato device, I saw that coming a mile away.
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I dont even know who is this walmart bill cipher, but saitama negs
