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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Void was probably tempted by the god’s disguise. The god disguised themselves as Blast’s lover. Observe the act of reaching out to Void, similar to previous instances of granting power, I think. Therefore, Void and Blast’s lover are likely very connected. I hope it’s not a case of secretly having feelings for a friend’s lover—it feels oddly clichéd. My guess is that the two are siblings, and Blast’s lover passed away for some reason.
 
Kin201 said:
Lmao why do I find this meme so true.
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Because it is.
 
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Phoenks said:
Idk how to quantify the speed exactly, so I'll just give you guys some ideas.
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Void can view localized areas of what he wants to see. With him towering over multiple parallel universes and only being able to fit the image of Sonic and Flash in one circle, then an entire landscape later, this much is clear. So even if it shows galaxies in others, what is visible isn't the limit of his scope.

Since we see Saitama can see Void's swords, + we see Void's swords are making the attacks, this scene where there are seven simultaneous slashes makes no sense. The application of the swords contradicts any possible explanation unless he can swing out shockwave slices.

But we see Void can casually interact with space. His pulling space over himself like a blanket not only moved the amount of space visible to the eye but any/all space deeper than the surface of what we could see. Blast also observed he can only go to the higher dimension when he weaves his hand signs, which wasn't done in this case. That sounds like Higher-Dimensional Existence. That also suggests he can access higher-D abilities without needing to be in the actual higher-D space.

As far as the speed, idk. I strongly believe that the view Void has in his ball is the actual position in space from which his attack will come, effectively skipping any distance in space and acting like a portal attack. You can see here that his localized view of space is above the clouds, and Saitama, seeing his attacks come like twinkles in the sky, implies an incoming object, not an object that literally appears throughout all of space. We can see here when God approaches Garou that his movements are just weird clouds to everyone else. But those clouds are literally his feet portalling out of nowhere. This also means that if his ability is like Void's, God was walking on this Earth's bubble. 🧐

There's also the fact that Saitama pulling Void back into the universe returned him and his swords to normal size as they passed that spatial boundary, instead of immediately power-slamming the whole universe. He might just have really fancy spatial manipulation, idk.
 
I guess the cop-out answer for now could just be that his speed varies.
 
Or maybe the speed is the same. Just that Saitama is fast enough to catch them and the others (consequently, the pov we saw until now) was of people getting speedblitzed by the speed of the attack and as thus only seeing the consequence
 
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If that's accepted, you can get Saitama to a really high MFTL+ level.

Not only the distance, but maybe you could use FF being capable of perceiving things in 0.01 seconds yet him being unable to perceive the sword (or multiply that by 10x due to Blast seemingly being unable to perceive it either; which means he's faster than Garou who can act in 0.001 seconds).
 
Phoenks said:
Idk how to quantify the speed exactly, so I'll just give you guys some ideas.

First Interpretation: The sword emanates down from the higher-dimension, effectively "teleporting" into the universe and then cleaving across it.

This is personally what I believe. The speed would depend on where it begins in the universe (where it first teleports to).

At the low end, this would be the edge of the planet's atmosphere (or somewhere arbitrary in the sky above the clouds). That is where we first see Saitama notice it. (Though you could assume that to be WAYYY further out if you wanted to) The speed would be pretty abysmal with that being the case.

At the mid end, you could assume this to be the edge of the universe itself. We see on multiple panels that there are galaxies in the bubbles realities. If the sword first enters at the edge of the universe and then begins to travel towards the location, then this would be ridiculously high into MFTL+ territory, if not just outright Infinite (At least for the initial strike).

With the highest end interpretation, you could say that the sword is literally just traversing the space-time itself in order to "teleport." Would get you to Infinite or Immeasurable speed. Though it seems to be a bit contradicted. You could say that the initial strike down is infinite/immeasurable (or just teleportation) but then him cleaving across takes time.

Second Interpretation: The sword is a higher-dimensional, large size construct that is just literally, physically cutting into the universe.

This is what happens if you just take everything at face value, I guess. Void is bigger than the universe. His sword is bigger than the universe. He is cutting into the universe from Hyperspace, with the sword that is bigger than the universe, slicing across space-time. Could also just be considered Infinite speed I guess. This would also give Saitama Infinite or Immeasurable LS.
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For the second interpretation: EV is not bigger than the universe, but from the perspective of the hyperspace he is. If he was ACTUALLY bigger than the universe than everything he does would dwarf the planet hes attacking. The bubbles simply represent the universes instead of actually being them, I thought this was kinda obvious to know. There’s nothing saying the bubble itself is the universe.
 
WizardPowers101 said:
For the second interpretation: EV is not bigger than the universe, but from the perspective of the hyperspace he is. If he was ACTUALLY bigger than the universe than everything he does would dwarf the planet hes attacking. The bubbles simply represent the universes instead of actually being them, I thought this was kinda obvious to know. There’s nothing saying the bubble itself is the universe.
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"In the dimensions folded like bubbles"?yeah those are universes, it is stated they are folded like bubbles and they are called parallel worlds
 
Also, why should we consider it being from the edge of the universe? When EV gets pulled, its clearly shown that its from a type of hole in the sky rather than a twinkle
 
Alexander said:
"In the dimensions folded like bubbles"?yeah those are universes, it is stated they are folded like bubbles and they are called parallel worlds
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Yeah…I know they are those parallel worlds, I’m not dumb. I’m not denying the credibility of EV’s word, but the universes in OPM aren’t actual bubbles but its more so a gateway to that universe. Although you can negate this view if you think its wrong.
 
WizardPowers101 said:
Yeah…I know they are those parallel worlds, I’m not dumb. I’m not denying the credibility of EV’s word, but the universes in OPM aren’t actual bubbles but its more so a gateway to that universe. Although you can negate this view if you think its wrong.
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and you have any solid logic to say they are gateways?
 
Alexander said:
and you have any solid logic to say they are gateways?
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Yes….by just reading the manga. The bubbles themselves are not the universes, that’s a dumb interpretation. Its a open-close case dude. It’s obvious by multiple evidence to suggest that the bubble itself is meant to show locations in the universe and through that, people like EV can cut through space and reach towards that area.
 
WizardPowers101 said:
Yes….by just reading the manga. The bubbles themselves are not the universes, that’s a dumb interpretation. Its a open-close case dude. It’s obvious by multiple evidence to suggest that the bubble itself is meant to show locations in the universe and through that, people like EV can cut through space and reach towards that area.
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Again, do you have any proof that the bubbles are just representation of the universes?also how is my interpretation dumb when It is say they are THE UNIVERSES
 
Phoenks said:
Idk how to quantify the speed exactly, so I'll just give you guys some ideas.

First Interpretation: The sword emanates down from the higher-dimension, effectively "teleporting" into the universe and then cleaving across it.

This is personally what I believe. The speed would depend on where it begins in the universe (where it first teleports to).

At the low end, this would be the edge of the planet's atmosphere (or somewhere arbitrary in the sky above the clouds). That is where we first see Saitama notice it. (Though you could assume that to be WAYYY further out if you wanted to) The speed would be pretty abysmal with that being the case.

At the mid end, you could assume this to be the edge of the universe itself. We see on multiple panels that there are galaxies in the bubbles realities. If the sword first enters at the edge of the universe and then begins to travel towards the location, then this would be ridiculously high into MFTL+ territory, if not just outright Infinite (At least for the initial strike).

With the highest end interpretation, you could say that the sword is literally just traversing the space-time itself in order to "teleport." Would get you to Infinite or Immeasurable speed. Though it seems to be a bit contradicted. You could say that the initial strike down is infinite/immeasurable (or just teleportation) but then him cleaving across takes time.

Second Interpretation: The sword is a higher-dimensional, large size construct that is just literally, physically cutting into the universe.

This is what happens if you just take everything at face value, I guess. Void is bigger than the universe. His sword is bigger than the universe. He is cutting into the universe from Hyperspace, with the sword that is bigger than the universe, slicing across space-time. Could also just be considered Infinite speed I guess. This would also give Saitama Infinite or Immeasurable LS.
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It is more about how far Void aims from. In this text I will only assume, so dont expect any factual information. We can assume that Void could aim Galaxies with his DS since we saw galaxies in the bubbles. But, to damage Galaxies, he must need a bigger range of attack since it's not even as wide as a mountain. So, we could say depends on where he aims, his Sword would be bigger or smaller, and the attacks speed would varie.

From what we see, he's aiming Blast, FF and Sonic. We can say that by the looking of universe bubble. To do this, he targets a smaller space and his sword is smaller and proportionally faster. Your "mid end" would be unacceptable, if the attack was to start from the edge of universe it would also destroy everything in its way to earth since it can cut through anything. Void's attack starts from where he aims, just sky in this point.

But if he really is able to aim and cut galaxies, it would grant him a bigger and faster sword.

As for the speed of attack, its either not infinity speed or Saitama is just faster than infinity speed to see it even before it lands on earth.
 
Jirenoffical said:
It is more about how far Void aims from. In this text I will only assume, so dont expect any factual information. We can assume that Void could aim Galaxies with his DS since we saw galaxies in the bubbles. But, to damage Galaxies, he must need a bigger range of attack since it's not even as wide as a mountain. So, we could say depends on where he aims, his Sword would be bigger or smaller, and the attacks speed would varie.

From what we see, he's aiming Blast, FF and Sonic. We can say that by the looking of universe bubble. To do this, he targets a smaller space and his sword is smaller and proportionally faster. Your "mid end" would be unacceptable, if the attack was to start from the edge of universe it would also destroy everything in its way to earth since it can cut through anything. Void's attack starts from where he aims, just sky in this point.

But if he really is able to aim and cut galaxies, it would grant him a bigger and faster sword.

As for the speed of attack, its either not infinity speed or Saitama is just faster than infinity speed to see it even before it lands on earth.
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Saitama faster than Infinity is way more beliavable
 
About the first attack that saitama catched... the sword is vertical as it travells. This means that unless void first stabbed it into the ground then slashed, the attack instead appears instantly infront of blast and co, unlike the second horizontal attack from above that appears at significantly a farther distance

then again, it could also mean that the sword appeared at an arc, swinging somewhere offscreen then we get where we are with the panel with blast and co.

The sword itself is tilted at an angle. Could it be used to calculate void's exact sword swing?
 
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Okay, just thinked about that.

We accept "Dimensional Slash" as 4d, right? Not sure if its accepted or not. But if so, it would also mean Void's sword are 4d themselves in the Hyperspace since the attack is made directly by them.

So, my point is: It would grant some hax for Saitama to change the swords appearance from 4d to 3d when he pulled Void back to universe. What stops Swords being still big in the universe? Even if the attack isn't accepted as 4d, it would grant Saitama size manip or something to do that in my opinion.
 
Also we can say that Void couldn't simply destroy a bubble since his swords gets directly in the bubble. We never saw him touching the bubble itself. So no low 2c or above for him probably, maybe we could see some 3c/b feats if the fight doesn't end quickly.
 
Jirenoffical said:
So, my point is: It would grant some hax for Saitama to change the swords appearance from 4d to 3d when he pulled Void back to universe. What stops Swords being still big in the universe? Even if the attack isn't accepted as 4d, it would grant Saitama size manip or something to do that in my opinion.
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For the feat to work out Saitama would need to have HD interaction and spatial manipulation. Dunno about speed yet, since there's multiple assumption you can make.

But touching the Blades isn't a Low 2-C feat.
 
What a chapter. It already rips powerscaling subreddits apart XD

So, how do we approach Dimensional Slash? The statements align with it being instant move, etc, etc, but showings vary so much and it is sometimes dodge-able. Is it just inconsistent or Void is able to change its properties?
 
I don't think its infinity speed since it takes time to land on earth from Hyperspace. We can know it from Saitama seeing it before landing. But we also could assume Saitama was fast enough to react a infinity speed attack.
 
Jirenoffical said:
I don't think its infinity speed since it takes time to land on earth from Hyperspace. We can know it from Saitama seeing it before landing. But we also could assume Saitama was fast enough to react a infinity speed attack.
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Infinite speed is achievable by crossing infinite distance in finite time, do people read their own speed page?
 
Alexander said:
Infinite speed is achievable by crossing infinite distance in finite time
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I don't think the attack starts from the edge of universe.
Jirenoffical said:
It is more about how far Void aims from. In this text I will only assume, so dont expect any factual information. We can assume that Void could aim Galaxies with his DS since we saw galaxies in the bubbles. But, to damage Galaxies, he must need a bigger range of attack since it's not even as wide as a mountain. So, we could say depends on where he aims, his Sword would be bigger or smaller, and the attacks speed would varie.

From what we see, he's aiming Blast, FF and Sonic. We can say that by the looking of universe bubble. To do this, he targets a smaller space and his sword is smaller and proportionally faster. Your "mid end" would be unacceptable, if the attack was to start from the edge of universe it would also destroy everything in its way to earth since it can cut through anything. Void's attack starts from where he aims, just sky in this point.

But if he really is able to aim and cut galaxies, it would grant him a bigger and faster sword.

As for the speed of attack, its either not infinity speed or Saitama is just faster than infinity speed to see it even before it lands on earth.
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It would destroy everything on its way to earth if it was starting from edge of the universe. Wouldn't it?
 
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