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So, High 6-A Tatsumaki can or cannot take a punch from a 6-B Boros?
In my opinion? Yes, he can, while Ttasumaki has a higher AP than him in this site, in the context of the history it wouldn't make sense Tatsumaki being stronger than him (much less Psykorochi)
 
I don't think we should have a 2nd form in Orochi's profile. I see it as the exact same form, but just releasing his dragons to shoot some fire. I only see a transformation when he fights Saitama.
 
He only has two keys in his profile though. I think that someone just randomly added the "second form" to his profile with no apparent reasons.
 
He only has two keys in his profile though. I think that someone just randomly added the "second form" to his profile with no apparent reasons.
The second form image was there before Orochi was given more than one key though...?
 
He absolutely needs more than one key. Even if we say his Second Form is no different than his First in AP, his Third Form is distinctly more powerful.
 
The way I see it is that he just shapeshifts himself so that it is easier for him to fight. Saying his initial form's durability isn't the same as the final form or whatever it is called is an assumption.
 
Assuming they are the same is more of an assumption. They’re different forms, they have no reason to be the exact same.
 
What do we consider the limit on Garou's reactive evolution?
I don't think Garou's reactive evolution has an AP limit- but I do think he can evolve too fast. If he goes through too many transformations too quickly, then he'll lose control and devolve into a mindless monster. But if you push him at a slower rate he go forever as far as I know(zenkai boosts every couple hours as opposed to every two minutes or so, which is what happened with Saitama)
 
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No, it's not blatant, it is speculation. Nothing to say that his initial form can't be as durable as his final form or whatever it is called. He shapeshifts into the final form so that he can fight easier (And can fire energy beams, something that his initial form apparently cannot). And I already said it is speculation either way.
 
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It is not speculation to say Third Form Orochi performed a feat above his First Form, unless you can find First Form Orochi performing a High 6-C feat. Until you can do that, Third Form >>> First Form.
 
And his third form or whatever performed that feat via firing an energy beam, something that his initial form apparently couldn't, and we arbitrarily assumed his third form >>>>> his initial form in all aspects. I don't understand how that is not speculation.
 
If you don’t understand how the Third Form being stronger than the First Form because it performed a superior feat isn’t speculation, then I don’t even know what to say at that point.
 
Yes, I don't understand how that is not speculation to think that his Final Form obliterates his initial one in all aspects, thank you for your time anyway.
 
I think Garou's evolution requires both physiological and psychological standards to be met.
For one he can't evolve quickly enough to beat someone who is vastly stronger and faster ( Darkshine saying he'd be toast if he fought flashy flash or Atomic samurai, for example ), but can keep going forever if he's met with constant force strong enough to make him evolve, but not enough to truly overwhelm him.

Keeping his ideals and will through the fight is also important. ( since most of the time limiter related stuff has more to do with people getting obsessed over certain concepts ) During his fight against Saitama, every time Garou would evolve Saitama would just pull more power out of his ass while keeping his deadpan look, wich made Garou question his abilities to defeat him.
It also doesn't help Saitama was questioning his monster play and made him lose track of his ideals with questions he had no answers to, wich also prevented him from removing his limiter.
 
First form and second form are two different forms... how and why is this an argument?
Different forms but not entirely sure the latter obliterates the former in all aspects. And I personally said it is an assumption either way, my point of him forming into his 3rd form so that he can fight more effective doesn't sound absurd at all. Anyways, that's just my opinion. Can we drop this?
 
Cap and Thanos lifted Stormbreaker. It’s not exactly enchanted like Mjölnir.
I wasn't talking about the worthy stuff, Thor said it can't be used by weak people, Cap was empowered by Mjolnir (High 7-A) and Thanos is, well, even stronger than Thor (6-C) that's why they could use it, the statement is in Infinity War
 
Who said for 2 orochi obliterates form 1... all I'm saying is that form 2 is considerably stronger, with different attacks and abilities.
 
Garou was able to dodge, parry, and take hits from first form orochi, while is second form, he got knocked around by a single punch.
 
Orochi should have just two keys, as I said earlier. The one that fought Garou (1st and 2nd according to this Wiki) and the one who fought Saitama. We don't have a way to prove the "Second Form" is stronger than the first one because Orochi is just releasing dragons and fire, something that he can also do while in his "Third Form". By that logic, he should have a fourth key too, so I believe Orochi only has two different forms.
 
Also, is AP in Armored Boros' case the same as his striking strength? I don't see why he would scale to the meteor with a single punch. It's not like the meteor is an intelligent being that can go around destroying things. Disaster levels also count the damage that can be done overtime. Can someone convince me otherwise?
 
Do you guys think Garou's regeneration and precognition will be amplified in the manga when he goes monster.

In the webcomic the limit of his regen was Low-Mid, I can see it reaching High-Mid in the manga.
 
Do you guys think Garou's regeneration and precognition will be amplified in the manga when he goes monster.

In the webcomic the limit of his regen was Low-Mid, I can see it reaching High-Mid in the manga.
I think High-Mid is reasonable, but I don't think we'll see the full extent of the regen since I don't think Garou will get his head blown off or most of his body destroyed, so I doubt we'll be able to get High-mid unless some statement is made since nothing more than low-mid will be shown (according to my prediction).
 
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