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In terms of physical output? Or durability? (Garou)
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Strongest One Punch General Discussion Thread v7
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Phoenix Man believes he needs to watch out for Flashy Flash even after his 2nd Resurrection. So Flashy Flashy would probably scale. And anybody that scales to him would also scale.
@KGiffoni No Atomic Samurai and Half-Monster Garou wouldn't scale. They don't have any feats or statements that put them on par with 2nd Resurrection Phoenix Man.
@KGiffoni No Atomic Samurai and Half-Monster Garou wouldn't scale. They don't have any feats or statements that put them on par with 2nd Resurrection Phoenix Man.
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Not sure, probably both. Psykos stated Garou could be an executive, and that was before his fight with Darkshine. But again, so could Bakuzan who got stomped by Gouketsu. But that Garou defeated Darkshine, who is comparable to Gouketsu, and Gouketsu, as one of the strongest executives, should be somewhat comparable to Phoenix Man.
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Brave Giant & Phoenix Man's second resurrection scale for obvious reasons.
Metal Knight scales on account of having taught CE how to build his tech.
Orochi and Golden Sperm maybe scale by being vastly ahead of the other executives (and if they're relative to Tatsumaki which they have been shown/stated to be, then them being 6-C makes sense, as it's still way below her feats.)
Don't think anyone else scales unless we want to make a "other high S-Class should have comparable output" argument, in which case Darkshine, AS, Bang/Bomb, Flashy Flash, Rover, Elder Centipede, Garou, and Gouketsu might scale.
Metal Knight scales on account of having taught CE how to build his tech.
Orochi and Golden Sperm maybe scale by being vastly ahead of the other executives (and if they're relative to Tatsumaki which they have been shown/stated to be, then them being 6-C makes sense, as it's still way below her feats.)
Don't think anyone else scales unless we want to make a "other high S-Class should have comparable output" argument, in which case Darkshine, AS, Bang/Bomb, Flashy Flash, Rover, Elder Centipede, Garou, and Gouketsu might scale.
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Laser beams go as follows.
Sekingar, Genos, Child Emperor, Orochi, Boros.
Sekingar, Genos, Child Emperor, Orochi, Boros.
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@KGiffoni None of them has any feats or statements of scaling to Phoenix Man. Heck for all we know after his 2nd Resurrection Phoenix Man could be stronger than all the executives or weaker than all of them. So unless they have actual feats or statements they shouldn't scale.
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Phoenix Man did say he should "watch out for Flashy Flash" after he saw the two ninja bros dead, so...
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I can see an argument for Flashy. Hellfire and Galewind were capable of somewhat damaging Brave Giants armor, so ontop of that statement from Phoenix Man, maybe. Could also see an argument made for Darkshine personally, but maybe not.
Other than that I don't think anyone else should scale. I can understand the logic behind Orochi and Golden Sperm and scaling wise it makes sense, but its far to easy to just say they should be stronger "because of course they are". I'm fine either way tho, but that should be where the scaling chain ends.
Other than that I don't think anyone else should scale. I can understand the logic behind Orochi and Golden Sperm and scaling wise it makes sense, but its far to easy to just say they should be stronger "because of course they are". I'm fine either way tho, but that should be where the scaling chain ends.
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Flashy Flash, Hellfire, and Gale should get a "possibly" rating at the least.
Depends on if you think the nova should scale to Brave Giant's durability I guess.
Depends on if you think the nova should scale to Brave Giant's durability I guess.
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Huh Hellfire and Gale did more visible damage to brave giant than I remembered.
I thought it was just little scratches but they're actually breaking parts off it.
I thought it was just little scratches but they're actually breaking parts off it.
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That only seemed to be due to its unique physiology. Everytime its carapace is destroyed it just regrows a new one that's even stronger than the last. The 4 mentioned simply possessed the right means to fully put it down which no other hero did. Bang and Bomb managed to severally damage its carapace with their special combination technique but it simply regrew a new one, and any further attempts would be futile. I could imagine Darkshine or Flashy possessing the AP to damage him about as much, but he'd simply just regrow a new one and just outlast them.
Suffice to say, I don't believe he should scale AP wise.
Suffice to say, I don't believe he should scale AP wise.
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This is probably a stretch but could Rover's durability scale?
Everyone reacted to Saitama's punch vs Rover, but only the surface team really reacted to the Nova.
Everyone reacted to Saitama's punch vs Rover, but only the surface team really reacted to the Nova.
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Even Orochi didn't get out of bed for the Nova, but he immediately knew something was up when Saitama punched Rover.
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murata ******* said that he doesnt know who would win between goku and saitama, so that means goku and saitama are comparable?Peter1129 said:
i guess its time for low 2-C saitama.
do you see how idiotic that logic is? "i dont know who would win" doesnt equal to "they are comparable", like what the ****.
you guys are forgetting that murata doesnt write the series, ONE does. so murata said he doesnt know because he literally just doesnt know enough about the characters because hes not the ******* writer. murata even said that the things he says can be very inaccurate because ONE hides things even from him.
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ONE is the person that gave Orochi the above Dragon rating.
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so if i ask my grandma who knows nothing about OPM, who would win in a fight between GS and orochi, obviously she would say "i dont know who would win" right?
so my grandma is implying that orochi and GS are "comparable" because she said she doesnt know who would win? **** no.
the point is, a person who knows nothing about OPM would say "i dont know" because they lack the knowledge required to justify a victor, which is the same with murata.
murata said that he doesnt know because he completely lacked the knowledge required to say a victor. which is understandable since GS was literally around for like one or two chapters. only ONE knows enough.
its entirely possible that GS stomps orochi or orochi stomps GS. theres absolutely zero evidence that they are comparable. this community is borderline mentally disabled when it comes to WoG statements.
murata is the ARTIST, not the ******* writer.
so my grandma is implying that orochi and GS are "comparable" because she said she doesnt know who would win? **** no.
the point is, a person who knows nothing about OPM would say "i dont know" because they lack the knowledge required to justify a victor, which is the same with murata.
murata said that he doesnt know because he completely lacked the knowledge required to say a victor. which is understandable since GS was literally around for like one or two chapters. only ONE knows enough.
its entirely possible that GS stomps orochi or orochi stomps GS. theres absolutely zero evidence that they are comparable. this community is borderline mentally disabled when it comes to WoG statements.
murata is the ARTIST, not the ******* writer.
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Murata is the artist but he clearly has some say on how the fights go. ONE gives him a clear beginning and end to each fight and lets him fill in the blanks. He also has information FROM ONE on a lot of his statements so they're mostly credible. The only ones you can say aren't so credible are ones where he doesn't seem sure and says he'll need to ask ONE or the ones that are open ended.
The Geryuganshoop relativistic thing is an example of this. Murata gave the statement and said he drew it as if it were the case but then he followed up with "well at least that's what I think".
And you're completely ignoring narrative intent if you think Orochi is weaker than Phoenix Man lol
The Geryuganshoop relativistic thing is an example of this. Murata gave the statement and said he drew it as if it were the case but then he followed up with "well at least that's what I think".
And you're completely ignoring narrative intent if you think Orochi is weaker than Phoenix Man lol
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lmao murata is the guy who said that orochi could no doubt survive several normal punches with no issue, and then what happened? saitama ONE SHOT orochi with a normal punch. murata literally has said that most of what he says can be ignored because hes almost always guessing, and that ONE leaves him in the dark on a lot of things.Tetsucabrah said:
do what you want, but imo yall really take quotes and twist the words like crazy. just because you "feel" like orochi and GS are equals doesnt make it true. theres no real evidence to this.
how would murata even know that golden sperm is comparable to orochi? golden sperm literally only exists to hype up garou. theres really very little info about him.
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Murata said that ONE said that Orochi could take more than one punch.
I just reread that part of the interview. All information about Orochi directly came from ONE.
I just reread that part of the interview. All information about Orochi directly came from ONE.
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That should be removed. Metal Knight was afraid the other heroes were marching towards their deaths and just wanted to nuke the MA base. He wanted to preserve his resources towards another unamed looming threat.
Child Emperor showed no such fear towards Orochi afaik.
Child Emperor showed no such fear towards Orochi afaik.
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