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Phantaminum is High 3-A via hax in AP and High 3-A with Barriers in Durability...Yobobojojo said:
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Strongest Character for Every Tier 17
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That's just the ususal "AP>Hax" shows generally do. That doesn't make it AP. Reality Warp is hax. AP is literally "potency", if it weren't hax it would mean you could just bench press and get RO eventually. So if Goku gets to 2-A he gets RO as an ability. That's "Ap and not hax".Yobobojojo said:
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That's not the point doe. There isn't all that much competition in 8-B, so he can get that tier (the only competition is Kumagawa but that's only in speed equalized).
Different tiers have different competition. Which is what we call a "tight tier". 8-A rn is a really tight tier, because you have to deal with 2-A fate hax and precog in speed equal and with the ex strongest 5-C in speed unequal. If Dio were to be upgraded to 8-A, then he wouldn't get the 8-A tier (he lost to Oracle) despite having all this hax.
So if there is no one is 6-A to beat him (including Slime) then he can get the tier.
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Reality WarpingYobobojojo said:
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Dude hax is anything that is not raw muscle power. RO is hax. Dio doesn't just literally punch the mutliverse into rewrite, he haxes it.Yobobojojo said:
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Yup.Peter1129 said:
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You have forgotten the (Speed Unequalized) to Phantaminum.Peter1129 said:
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Heaven DIO's Reality Overwrite can be used to create stuff, so it is technically equivolent to both AP and Hax depending on how he chooses to use it. Like he has created a universe of his own, but also uses it to write people out of existence across the multiverse
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Even if it doesn't create stuff it's still hax and not AP. That's like calling All Fiction AP and not hax xD.Iapitus The Impaler said:
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Translate to AP, sure, doesn't mean they ARE AP.Wokistan said:
4-C causality manip works on 3-B dude. The 3-B dude has better AP and Dura...causality stomps him doe.
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Yeah that doesn't come with AP doe.Yobobojojo said:
Sayan saga goku vs Medaka's Scar Dead
Goku has more AP, who wins doe?
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He gets close he dies doe... (also it's goku vs scar dead, so if goku gets close, despite bigger AP would he get owned...ofc)Wokistan said:
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Scar Dead works on presence and is automatic, so blitzing isn't an option. If he runs up close, his death that was undone by the dragon balls gets restored
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^^^^Iapitus The Impaler said:
Higher AP doesn't mean you resist hax.
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It isn't about tanking, its about the wounds. Remember that time he was vaporised in cell's explosion? that gets reopenned.
She does not have to think to activate it, its automatic
She does not have to think to activate it, its automatic
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Medaka doesn't leave the passive on and needs to think to turn it back on. There's also still the issue of ranged attacks. Bloodlusted and speed equal she wins though.
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Oh so she can win with a skill even though it's a much smaller AP? How come? Oh right...it's hax.Wokistan said:
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That is assumed but not necesarrily true. I usually assume its a plot hole that her various abilities are not on all the time. Goku does not start with range tho
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Is Majestic Presence really stronger than Yhoundeh?
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Guys guys, let's not argue Medaka vs Goku here. The winner is pretty clear, the point was, Hax can affect higher AP and Dura just fine.
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Well it used to be tier 0 once so...yeah.Warren Valion said:
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For ******* sure. The Unknown stat is a place holder because Ant didn't want him to be ranked at tier 0 until we get a chance to talk about it. Go look at the Gods of Cyberspace profiles and then you will see whyWarren Valion said:
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So was Undoubtedly First and his entire verse was deleted for being terribly done and inaccurate.Firephoenixearl said:
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Uhm. Im inclined to believe that 2-C is a really broad tier so it isn't getting a true strongest. Kind of doubt they can beat all the competition. I mean a TON of ppl are 2-C.Tincan123 said:
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I/O profiles are pretty god awful dude. Nothing has any justifications at all, and I'm pretty sure they are going through enormous revisons to fix the entire series like adding new tabs for the different routes and such.Iapitus The Impaler said:
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I'm actually the one going through and fixing them lol. They are going through massive revisions, but I can say that Majestic Presence is tier 0, and the Gods of Cyberspace are at least likely infinite degrees of infinite above baseline and the Majestic Presence has an even greater difference above them, likely tier 0. He has no notable weakenesses, the only thing close to a limitation that it has is that it seems to have no concept of self due to its power, and often responds to the hundreth monkey effect automatically, but it likely does not have toWarren Valion said:
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Then Yhoundeh take the unknown spot via the majestic presence getting an actual tier
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Well, if he's Tier 0 as you say, then he technically wouldn't be the greater Unknown.
******* NInja'd.
******* NInja'd.
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Well as of rn MP is the strongest unknown but it's not worth it if he's gonna get a tier soon.
