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Better question would be who wins without metaphysical aspects(AE, NEP, PP, CM, IM whatever we have) in this list
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Better question would be who wins without metaphysical aspects(AE, NEP, PP, CM, IM whatever we have) in this list
Acting like he doesn'tGoku solo your favorite verse" again
Acting like he doesn't
Wait what?
What? What the hell is that?
World is a planet frthis one
best debunk crt i ever read in my life
I seeits just like this list but 5-D
Nah, they agree too. They really don't have any other choice tbw.@Tony_di_bugalu and @Tanin_iver seems to disagree with that
aightNah, they agree too. They really don't have any other choice tbw.
I am sorry, but where did Tony or I say that we agree to something that wasn't even argued?Nah, they agree too. They really don't have any other choice tbw.
You agreed in DMs.I am sorry, but where did Tony or I say that we agree to something that wasn't even argued?
No one is going to downplay their own verse for our sake (might as well call it pity at this point lmao). On the otherhand, Planck did claim it can be NEP2 void manip if the object in question goes back to the said nothingness and Chaos' profile description verbatim says the creation will "revert" back to it if the world pillar was ever destroyed.NEP2 Void manip wasn't even argued here afaik.
You agreed in DMs.Tony is irrelevant.
Well if Planck or anyone makes the argument that NEP2 Void manip of Choas is special, then the question arises, how will the NEP2 Void Manip interact with DMC Souls > Concept/Info, while GoW is Soul = Concept = Info?No one is going to downplay their own verse for our sake (might as well call it pity at this point lmao). On the otherhand, Planck did claim it can be NEP2 void manip if the object in question goes back to the said nothingness and Chaos' profile description verbatim says the creation will "revert" back to it if the world pillar was ever destroyed.
You mean where I disagreed with NEP2 for GoW.?
I am also talking about discussion or arguments here.
Well if Planck or anyone makes the argument that NEP2 Void manip of Choas is special, then the question arises, how will the NEP2 Void Manip interact with DMC Souls > Concept/Info, while GoW is Soul = Concept = Info?
And how will DMC characters interact with NEP2 Chaos?
Like idk and dc to go that deep with arguments incon seems fine to me.
Now wanked Athena and PoH Kratos might be more debatable.
Okay this makes sense as there isn't exactly any feats for this NEP to counter such higher level of abstractions. What do you think? @Robo432343Given that the Soul is a more fundamental aspect than aspects that Chaos's EE does erase, and DMC characters can come back even from full Soul erasure, I think incon is more appropriate imo
That would only mean incon cuz no interaction while DMC resist everything Tensura and Chaos can do.Why DMC is still sharing the same spot in 4? I think they should be lower cause no NEP2.
Wut? I never agreed to anything nor have I even argued anything here.Nah, they agree too. They really don't have any other choice tbw.
Wut? I never agreed to anything nor have I even argued anything here.
Nvm, Robo changed DMC's position to 6th place.That would only mean incon cuz no interaction while DMC resist everything Tensura and Chaos can do.
Wut? I never agreed to anything nor have I even argued anything here.
bruhNvm, Robo changed DMC's position to 6th place.
uh Tensura is getting NEP2 erasure slop + CM1 soulsThat would only mean incon cuz no interaction while DMC resist everything Tensura and Chaos can do.
Wut? I never agreed to anything nor have I even argued anything here.
Given that the Soul is a more fundamental aspect than aspects that Chaos's EE does erase, and DMC characters can come back even from full Soul erasure, I think incon is more appropriate imo
apparently NEP 2 void manipulation does not care about thatOkay this makes sense as there isn't exactly any feats for this NEP to counter such higher level of abstractions. What do you think?
NEP 2 erasure just means you can erase NEP2, not that your Erasure is some super duper kind of erasureuh Tensura is getting NEP2 erasure slop + CM1 souls
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The new info hax apparentlyWhat is even NEP2 void hax?
I think the one he's talking about is how voids basically reduce a being to their "voidness", rather than specifically erasing NEP 2 beings.NEP 2 erasure just means you can erase NEP2, not that your Erasure is some super duper kind of erasure
NEP erasure is what was commonly used by others (see Anus for example) as a mean to destroy some character with NEP
The new info hax apparently
lol
I have never seen someone use that expression?
then we wouldn't have people saying, "he can erase you on a nonexistent level"
yeah but that's pretty useless if people resist the main stuff which is void manip, dunno why it's being treated as something superiorI think the one he's talking about is how voids basically reduce a being to their "voidness", rather than specifically erasing NEP 2 beings.
At least, to my understanding. Idk if Tensura is the latter or former.
last time in the dante vs rimuru thread you said this:snip
but what does this actually mean and how does the abyss crt change thingsPassive NEP1 (1 layer) Erasure will go brrrrr
I mean, you'd have to resist void hax that can reduce you to not existing ontologically, which is a step above just basic EE resistanceI have never seen someone use that expression
yeah but that's pretty useless if people resist the main stuff which is void manip, dunno why it's being treated as something superior
That was kind of a mistake on my part?last time in the dante vs rimuru thread you said this:
If the opponent is a nonexistent entity, they will be passively erasedbut what does this actually mean and how does the abyss crt change things
Kratos have NEP2 erasure resistance via Unity Stone so...That was kind of a mistake on my part?
Due to a formatting f up it showed that Dante has NEP when he doesn't
So that doesn't have much impact
If the opponent is a nonexistent entity, they will be passively erased
The Abyss CRT now changes it to NEP2 erasure and also all Void Manip on profiles becomes NEP2
Which none of the guys in GoW and DMC have resistance to
Can you like... properly put that shi on profiles? I can't even check whether it's true, because there is no Type there and no profile for anythingKratos have NEP2 erasure resistance via Unity Stone so...