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Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki

GoW and DMC are mostly incon where DMC leverages better overall hax and layers whereas GoW have NEP2 which renders all that useless but have nothing substantial to counter back

Tensura is something Idk much about so I can't gauge what they can do by comparison
 
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What? What the hell is that?
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I am sorry, but where did Tony or I say that we agree to something that wasn't even argued?
You agreed in DMs. Tony is irrelevant.

NEP2 Void manip wasn't even argued here afaik.
No one is going to downplay their own verse for our sake (might as well call it pity at this point lmao). On the otherhand, Planck did claim it can be NEP2 void manip if the object in question goes back to the said nothingness and Chaos' profile description verbatim says the creation will "revert" back to it if the world pillar was ever destroyed.
 
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You agreed in DMs. Tony is irrelevant.
You mean where I disagreed with NEP2 for GoW.?
I am also talking about discussion or arguments here.


No one is going to downplay their own verse for our sake (might as well call it pity at this point lmao). On the otherhand, Planck did claim it can be NEP2 void manip if the object in question goes back to the said nothingness and Chaos' profile description verbatim says the creation will "revert" back to it if the world pillar was ever destroyed.
Well if Planck or anyone makes the argument that NEP2 Void manip of Choas is special, then the question arises, how will the NEP2 Void Manip interact with DMC Souls > Concept/Info, while GoW is Soul = Concept = Info?
And how will DMC characters interact with NEP2 Chaos?
Like idk and dc to go that deep with arguments incon seems fine to me.

Now wanked Athena and PoH Kratos might be more debatable.
 
You mean where I disagreed with NEP2 for GoW.?
I am also talking about discussion or arguments here.



Well if Planck or anyone makes the argument that NEP2 Void manip of Choas is special, then the question arises, how will the NEP2 Void Manip interact with DMC Souls > Concept/Info, while GoW is Soul = Concept = Info?
And how will DMC characters interact with NEP2 Chaos?
Like idk and dc to go that deep with arguments incon seems fine to me.

Now wanked Athena and PoH Kratos might be more debatable.
Given that the Soul is a more fundamental aspect than aspects that Chaos's EE does erase, and DMC characters can come back even from full Soul erasure, I think incon is more appropriate imo
Okay this makes sense as there isn't exactly any feats for this NEP to counter such higher level of abstractions. What do you think? @Robo432343
 
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So it seems that GOW might become 1-C although no one will scale for it now at least according to planck
 
Given that the Soul is a more fundamental aspect than aspects that Chaos's EE does erase, and DMC characters can come back even from full Soul erasure, I think incon is more appropriate imo
Okay this makes sense as there isn't exactly any feats for this NEP to counter such higher level of abstractions. What do you think?
apparently NEP 2 void manipulation does not care about that
make a match
 
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