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we dont give ppl with paraconsistent type 2 immunity to all attacks anymore
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Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki
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Where do you think this character would scale to?
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I hesitate to get into this whole shebang but also, where would Giratina place?
True form has NEP Nature type 1 and Aspect type 1, Abstract existence type 1. It has concept manip type 1, matter, void and chaos manipulation and is immune to soul hax.
True form has NEP Nature type 1 and Aspect type 1, Abstract existence type 1. It has concept manip type 1, matter, void and chaos manipulation and is immune to soul hax.
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Maybe around 7? Asriel has information EE but at the same time doesn't resist Concept hax so I'm unsure.
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The same. Don't see anything that bypasses DMC or GoW, but it's still above the others.
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Would Info hax bypass NEP?
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Would power mimicry help?
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Yes? As long as Giratina isn't nonexistent in that aspect then it doesn't matter.
No. Power Mimicry isn't even that rare on this list.
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Then what do you think of his plot manip?
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Weird stuff but okay
anyways, put them on the same level ig
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What can it do? P. Chaos gets passive haxxed by the characters above it anyways.
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I was talking about scroll of memory. The scroll's plot manip alters everything that exists in the verse including the Primordial Chaos, Fate, etc.
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Is it passive or not? If not then it'd get passived by DMC before anything. If it is, what does the alteration do specifically? Like, the offensive application.
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Passive as he embodies everything that exists including countless x hypertimelines. It basically traps you to become apart of his stories by altering your memories and soul. Can also modify your powers to adjust it to your past lives
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Hm. It can probably go above Maou then, checked the profiles and didn't see plot hax resistance.
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Might be worthy to note since the Scroll embodies everything in the verse including Journey to the West, it would include other heavy hitters like Sun Wukong and Lady Bone Demon so he has their abilities too
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Largely irrelevant. Plot Manip is the only reason it gets into Top 5.
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So will Scroll and Chaos have separating ratings? Or just simplified as "characters from verse"
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Just Characters from the verse.
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Actually wait, Anos's source is NEP Type 2. It can't affect that. It'd go below them then but above DMC/GoW.
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NEP type 2? That's pretty strong
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Well it is based of journey to the west and chinese mythology. Like the primordial chaos in lmk is based of Hundun who represents daoism. Maybe in the next season, chaos could get nep but for now they are anos victim
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First time?
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They are also missing dualities for some reason. Hope the writers cook something up to make Sun Wukong's abilities more accurate to his og version later
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Speed equalized, I think characters from Spirit of The Eternity Sword beat Solaris, and maybe even Undertale since from what I know Undertale's main thing is info type 2 erasure. Null Eternals are nonexistent on an info type 2 level, they also have a form of High Godly regen. Normal Eternals are type 1 abstracts with some hax ie concept manipulation, information manipulation, and resistances to various stuff.
Really only thing they are lacking is some nice layers,and immeasurable speed.
Really only thing they are lacking is some nice layers,
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Wow nep is pretty strong these days
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Anos has logic manipulation too which not many verses can withstand.
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Honestly even when others like BestMGQ trying to argue otherwise, staffs just ignored them.
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Chaos got NEP2? Since when and how? Also it would be incon perhaps again cos neither can interact with the other, iirc.
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Read recent GoW thread. It is pretty similar args like Tony made
Doesn't GoW go above via info already anyway?
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Why is Master unit still above Anos? Anos has logic manipulation and Unit doesn't seem to resist it.
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Just checked. Also, lol. I disagree with both DMC and GoW getting NEP2 for such reasons. NEP1 for both seems appropriate.
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The Overlord should be higher than Undertale because he has information type 2 on top of concept type 1
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She doesn't have it yet so we'll revisit that if the thread goes through.
Logic Manipulation is restricted to what it showcases even more than other abilities so it's far from insurmountable. Just having it is not any sort of win con. Not that it matters given Anos's 70+ layers.
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Pretty sure Anos can straight up destroys someone's logic. Hence when he erased Graham, Graham lacks logic as his aspect.
So I'm not sure how Anos is still ranked lower than Master Unit.
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Passives likely? MU has infinite layers IIRC. Having a wincon isn't an auto win. Still you can make a match for it. My point is that hax isn't an I win button just cause the other character lacks it.
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I'm pretty sure Anos immeasurable speed would allow him to dodge passives and get the first hit. (Master Unit only has infinite speed listed)
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Anos starts at MFTL and has to activate venuz
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