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I think Celestial Foundation Eater can beat Yang Kai, that Fish resist most of Kai haxes, some Kai haxes is useless cause HDE, and the Fish can just eat Kai info 2
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Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki
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Eh....make a Kratos vs CFE??, in the meantime, just place 3 of them together??
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Yang should be able to incon celestial fundation, he doesn't resist law manip attacks
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They are 5-D.
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Hax layers, meaning his passive, not his active attacks
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Me not getwhat
let me get setsuna or breeze
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Yang law manip derives from his cultvation, which is 5-D at this point
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Yang law hax is 4D, only CM1 is 5D in his Open Heaven rank and last key, his law hax is based on incorporating World Principle into his attack, world principle is the fundamental principle that govern each world, World is 4D. You can stretch it to 5D though, still CFE is 5D with Large Size type 10
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You are conceding that Law manip could be potentially assumed to be 5-D, which is more or less just being 5-D
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Yang kai arguably wins against Sora, while Kratos loses against him, this just seems like rock paper scissors
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He doesn't resist yang law manip, I think
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Sora resistance comes from not coming from this world, and resisting the laws of this current world, I don't think that would stop him from getting pumeled by Yang lawresisted
Kingdom Hearts (Entity)
Kingdom Hearts (キングダムハーツ Kingudamu Hātsu) is one of the major entities in the Kingdom Hearts universe. It is the heart of all worlds, and the source of ultimate power and wisdom. It can be seen as the heart of everything. Due to its great significance, it has repeatedly been sought by the...vsbattles.fandom.com
Rakih_Elyan
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Nozumu should be above Yang Kai and Kratos imo.
Considering his NEP, 5-D type 1 CM, 2 layers 5-D EE and 5-D info manip type 2. And resistance to those haxs on 5-D level into 2 layers.
The Spirit of Eternity Sword-Hax Scaling and Penetrate
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He also resist these shit on 5-D scale by 2 layers.
Space-Time Manipulation, Vibration Manipulation, Durability Negation, Plant Manipulation, BFR, Sense Manipulation, Explosion Manipulation, Darkness Manipulation, Absorption and Power Mimicry, Damage Transferal, Corrosion Inducement, and Mind Manipulation
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Uhhh, i don't see the profile so just some questions. Is his NEP nature 1 or 2??, what kind of EE he resist???Nozumu should be above Yang Kai and Kratos imo.
Considering his NEP, 5-D type 1 CM, 2 layers 5-D EE and 5-D info manip type 2. And resistance to those haxs on 5-D level into 2 layers.
The Spirit of Eternity Sword-Hax Scaling and Penetrate
He also resist these shit on 5-D scale by 2 layers.
Space-Time Manipulation, Vibration Manipulation, Durability Negation, Plant Manipulation, BFR, Sense Manipulation, Explosion Manipulation, Darkness Manipulation, Absorption and Power Mimicry, Damage Transferal, Corrosion Inducement, and Mind Manipulation
Edit: damn, i'm blind, bruhh, so he is NEP Nature 1, still i need to research what kind of EE he resists
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Rakih_Elyan
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Apostasy: An ability which allows Nozumu to kill gods, who can't permanently die due to reincarnation. Apostasy is an ability which erases it's targets name, power, and existence.
Also forget his
- Power Nullification (With Apostasy he can dispel his opponents power[2])
Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1; Was unaffected by Unstoppable Force's roar,[11] which destroys all without leaving a speck of dust. All Force's attacks are imbued with the concept of destruction, with this concept being outside of and disconnected from the Time Tree, which it governs)
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So conceptual erasure?, well, look like he beat even Celestial Foundation Eater due to having layered 5D haxes
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Don't see anything in his profile that protects him from passive history ee
Rakih_Elyan
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NEP type 1.
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Time Power and Power of Destruction can interact with and erase NEP1, even NEP that lack history
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Yeah, I conscede that Yang gets his ass kicked then
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Bill probably snaps and winswho do u think would win
bill cipher or timekeeper cookie
Timekeeper Cookie
Timekeeper Cookie is a Legendary Cookie in Cookie Run: OvenBreak. She is the future/alternate reality version of Croissant Cookie, and the director of the Time Balance Department. During the events of Operation Timeguard, Timekeeper Cookie starts messing with timelines and frames GingerBrave out...
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she can interact with legendary cookies who have ae 1 but nep might be an issue
her time stuff is conceptual
wouldn't her passives save herself from losing and making it incon?
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okay? you do know "conceptual bfr" doesnt exist right.
tf do they do, you never explained
Edit: Also her range is really really bad and unknown speed and LS... so Bill could crush her too
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probably should make a dedicated vs thread
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no, not passively destroy bill
passively destroying time, going to the end of time etc
Bills AE and NEP is his mindscape form tho?
ShionAH
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Okay how tf is that gonna help when Bill has infinitely bigger range?
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The Sugar Swan
The Sugar Swan is an important supporting protagonist in CookieRun: Kingdom and a minor background character in CookieRun: OvenBreak and LINE Cookie Run. One of the legendary wielders of cosmic power that built the world on an afternoon tea set, the Sugar Swan watches over the Cookie World to...
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She should be added. She has Concept Manip Type 1 and Non-Duality. Which is.. cool.
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tbf, nondual is useless now, new standard require the verse to specific what nondual in the verse grants, or else it is just another decorative ability, like how Aca 4 now, bruhh
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Yes, all the foundational concepts and powers. The cosmology and powers come from her.
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Will she be added on the list? Just an FYI she also has Large Size Type 10.. Just so you can understand how she views things.. (She views Low 2-C Structures akin to a grain of sugar, and the cosmology as a tea set)
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Any spot on 7-9 will do. I can also argue for Timekeeper Cookie being on the list.. especially with my new CRT on her abilities.
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I mean if that's true then why is Slay the Princess rated so high in the first place?
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AE1 and Transduality type 1 & 2, Transdual > Nondual
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I think you should remove Scared Ancestor from the list, he is oudated character, there is some revisions to remove and change abilities before which was accepted but no one bother to apply the changes to the profile. There ia also a currently ongoing CRT to upgrade his tier but get nowhere
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Right, except a good portion of other characters on the list already have AE Type 1, and Transduality is meaningless as it is, given the reasons that have already been highlighted on this thread. Either you're trying to assume "qualitative superiority" over concepts thus describing something that is 1-A (and thus doesn't belong on this thread) or you're assuming a random description of Transduality over what the wiki actually says about the topic. If you assume that it's the old description, then you're trying to describe a 6D character, which again would not belong on this thread.
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Idk why you clinging on transdual should be either 1-A or 6D, we discussing what currently on the profile, not what it could potentially is. Due to @DontTalkDT revision Nondual is useless while Transdual is still busted like before, except probably type 1 transdual, type 2 and 3 is still completely uninteractable. If you believe profile with transdual should be either 1-A or 6D, make a CRT about it
Also AE1 have many types, just because you can interact with one or two types doesn't mean you can interact with other types
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If you're discussing what's currently on the profile then transduality just straight up is 1-A, it directly invokes qualitative superiority. Also, no disrespect to DT, but I kinda don't care about what was said by him on it if it's not on the page for Nonduality. On that matter:
Meanwhile, the page also describes transduality as being "nonduality but with qualitative superiority", and to leave no doubt as to what qualitative superiority implied, it linked to the qualitative superiority page (before and after current tiering system):
Then maybe it should be specified what "type" of AE 1 you're talking about. I assume you're talking about Type 1 though, which isn't a unique feature on this list.
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