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Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki

Why is transduality being treated as different from nonduality on this thread? The nonduality page literally says that the only distinction involves qualitative superiority which is 1-A, so either the characters should be treated as 1-A or they should be treated as having nonduality type 2. To that end Wizard101 characters already have that + AE 1 + High Godly Regen, and there's one character with NEP 2 on top of everything else.
 
because no one revise Transduality yet, Ultima plan to do it, but the ETA of that thread is unknown, so we....................well, in the meantime using old difference between transdual and nondual
 
Vietthai96 said:
because no one revise Transduality yet, Ultima plan to do it, but the ETA of that thread is unknown, so we....................well, in the meantime using old difference between transdual and nondual
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The old difference still invoked qualitative superiority. The only difference is that qualitative superiority went from N+1 to 1-A. In the former case, this suggests that all N-Dimensional characters are transdual to N-1-Dimensional concepts, in which case they're either 6D or the concepts are 4D and thus irrelevant because all 5D characters are transdual by comparison. In the latter case, if suggests every character with R>F has transduality.
 
Robo432343 said:
i don't think its generic
even restricted hero can do this
(Can kill the Shifting Mound through her avatar,[7] destroying her on a conceptual level and removing her nature from reality
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Damn, next time please bro, post the entire profile so we can see the entire context bruhh, that Passive EE justification look very generic alone
Robo432343 said:
wait what happens it goku erases kratos from history
will it work?
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I'm not going to comment on this, not going to step on a landmine
 
Robo432343 said:
wait what happens if goku erases kratos from history
will it work?
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Depends if what Vietthai96 says is true and the invulnerability only protects Kratos from CM, then yes. However, I would recommend contacting a god of war supporter for a concrete answer.
 
I mean, from the profile, it seem so, since Fear Zeus is the concept of fear itself, however he is unable to damage Kratos, so yeah, the Invul cover conceptual damage at least, and probably even conceptual erasure but well that is me
Robo432343 said:
vsbattles.com

CC Goku vs Kratos

SBA Speed Equal
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
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******* no, you are going to kill us
 
For now just place Kratos at 10th and move everyone else one up I think

Oh and Omega’s been downgraded to 2c so he should be removed.
 
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Why is Bill so low? He will likely be 6D after Stryms thing gets accepted but still he isnt that weak lol
 
Near Azrael or under him? Idk how CM 1 works

Also pretty sure Bill and Discord can beat Kratos with Plot shit
 
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Robo432343 said:
someone should make a match for that its pretty debatable
people can argue it would be NLF to assume their plot hax can affect someone with type 1 conceptual invul
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Dude, you were literally arguing that conceptual manip bypasses plot manip because potency
 
Robo432343 said:
i won't argue further about this 🗿

your thread ended up being a stomp for chinaman
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The public putting their ears and pretending like smurf hax is the end all be all, and wanking AE to no end is different, goddamit, you even argued that the AE PROTECTED HIM FROM PLOT
 
Robo432343 said:
i never said AE will protect him from plot
don't strawman me
images
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Kek. Kekaroo even
No.
The plot won't work to incap him or kill him because 1-A time essence will not allow that
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When we say the strongest, would it include a character with only defensive but no offensive hax?
Like imagine it's so defensive that even no.1 on this list wouldn't be able to bypass it and beat/stomp them?, but has, literally none, zero offensive hax whatsoever?

While also going by the 5D limit of course.
 
Peppypony said:
When we say the strongest, would it include a character with only defensive but no offensive hax?
Like imagine it's so defensive that even no.1 on this list wouldn't be able to bypass it and beat/stomp them?, but has, literally none, zero offensive hax whatsoever?

While also going by the 5D limit of course.
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people like that would still be on the list but they would be ranked very low
 
Vietthai96 said:
hmm, i think DBH can beat Celestial Foundation Eater, it lost its AE1
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ID went from being one of the haxiest, and strongest verses on the wiki, to being stomped by transformers (though, to be fair transformers curbstomp warhammer, ergen, DND, and more)
 
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