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Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki
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@Livinmeme the infinite layer characters in BlazBlue are passives with their hax, that’s literally the whole plot point with the Embryo and why it has to leave reality since its existence messes with reality. Plus none of the toon force characters can interact with a type 2 NEP being so how is plot hax going to help them?
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Would someone with acausality type 5 be able to incon with characters from blazblue?
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This is old news lol
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@Robo432343 do they have anything to help them win in matches or is their only thing just them being type 5s? If that’s all they got then it’s not really worth tying it with BB when it’s supposed to be “who’s the strongest on the tier” not “who can just dodge everyone’s abilities the most”.
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Concept manp, soul manp, mind manp, creation, reality warping is the best they have got ig. Aside from Aca type 5.
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Do they have narrative NEP
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Cannot this card be played on both sides? I mean, if both don't have answer to each other haxes or resistances then that's just makes none above. Since both can't win.
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@Brogeefrong you mean the type 5 Aspect NEP? Because it’s in the page, and again it’s a type 2 Nature NEP, you need feats of affecting those in the first place.
@Reiner04 You do realize that the only reason it’s an incon is because the person just can’t be interacted with right? Not that it depends on who haxes first. If #8 can resist the hax the type 5 Acausal character has and can’t be put down in the same way 1-7 can then why would the type 5 go above all of them?
@Reiner04 You do realize that the only reason it’s an incon is because the person just can’t be interacted with right? Not that it depends on who haxes first. If #8 can resist the hax the type 5 Acausal character has and can’t be put down in the same way 1-7 can then why would the type 5 go above all of them?
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NEP is still bound by the dimensional plane the character is in, no matter the nature and type.
If that gets destroyed and the character in question doesn't have feats of existing after such a destruction,they are to be considered dead or incapacitated.
Don't know the specifics behind the characters we're dealing with here, so I'm not gonna say anything.
If that gets destroyed and the character in question doesn't have feats of existing after such a destruction,they are to be considered dead or incapacitated.
Don't know the specifics behind the characters we're dealing with here, so I'm not gonna say anything.
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What is the aspect 5 that it covers, cause if it's not Plot NEP, Plot manipulation is probably gonna work even if its NEP type 2
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That’s a NLF unless you can prove their plot hax affects a type 2 NEP character in the first place, especially before they instantly die from PI.
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Why is it a NLF? Their Plot is still in existence and can be effected?
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i think i fked up the list again
i put shiva and krishna at number 4 and 5 (the only think they have to save themselves from losing is nonduality and acausality) but if someone were to make a krishna vs sacred ancestor vs match it would be inconclusive
wtf do i do about this
i put shiva and krishna at number 4 and 5 (the only think they have to save themselves from losing is nonduality and acausality) but if someone were to make a krishna vs sacred ancestor vs match it would be inconclusive
wtf do i do about this
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No? You literally don't exist. LMAO, to say that a NEP character gets killed/incapacitated by the destruction of everything, would inherently imply that
A. They exist
B. They have connections to reality
It is in the name goddamit
Also proof
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@Brogeefrong that’s not how the aspects work, that makes them lack certain aspects of their being which makes them hard to affect them with hax in general, and again, saying plot hax can just work isn’t an argument if you lack the evidence to affect them in the first place, and before they get haxed to hell and back.
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It's all cool, too bad it's written on the page itself. It's an already accepted standard.
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That actually can be said about any character,
Say a character A exist, he has death manp and resistance towards concept manp.
Say the character at the top has resistance towards everything but death manp and he starts with concept hax.
Even if the guy A is lowest of this tier he would still solo character A. Hence it barely matters if the hypothetical character we assumed to exist can one shot due to uncertain circumstances or not. If overall, he stands above most.
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@Reiner04 that’s hardly different than Knack beating the Warhammer assassins with 1-A power null just because he happens to have the exact counter to the power null in the first place, he doesn’t beat everyone else weaker than the assassins just because he has a hard counter conveniently, he just got lucky, where everyone else weaker than the assassins would kill Knack (and yes this is a real vs thread that happened here a while ago).
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Yes having such character so weak and still can interact with aca type 5 is nothing but a great/sheer of luck. Which shouldn't account of being considered at all.
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Those were good times..
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im pretty sure in deceived's thead, characters can share a spot for a match being inconclusive
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That happens.
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@Reiner04 then the same can be said for characters that don’t have anything for them beyond just being untouchable, especially if they can’t actually beat the characters in the majority of the tier in the first place.
@Livinmeme still felt like a fever dream when I saw that thread.
@Livinmeme still felt like a fever dream when I saw that thread.
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But why would that stop Plot Hax from working when they dont lack the aspect of plot, and how is it not a effective arguement to say if you dont show a resistance to something you will be effected, also im assuming there are passive Plot hax characters being used, also also what about characters who can come back via plot
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Since they have resistance towards our top class haxes, which this guy has, and yeah, they all even together can't beat him for same reason. It's not luck it's king standing fr.
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@Brogeefrong because the plot hax needs feats of interacting with a NEP in the first place, it’s the same logic of arguing mindhax can affect someone who’s NEP just because they don’t have a mind being lacked, ignoring how the mindhax has never encountered a NEP being in the first place so it’s textbook definition NLF.
@Reiner04 and if those weaker than the concept guy can beat the dude who has death hax then he should be lower then, also if it’s king standing then there wouldn’t be a constant argument over the throne so
@Reiner04 and if those weaker than the concept guy can beat the dude who has death hax then he should be lower then, also if it’s king standing then there wouldn’t be a constant argument over the throne so
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Well, I just had my opinions over it, which basically forms over major cases while ignoring rare occurance such as death manp + concept guy or Aca type 5 guy + one with it's resistance. But if the rules are to ignore intangibility then that's just that.@Reiner04 and if those weaker than the concept guy can beat the dude who has death hax then he should be lower then, also if it’s king standing then there wouldn’t be a constant argument over the throne so
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But why? what stops them from manipulated, even if other aspects dont exist, if one is in existence what stops that aspect from beong manipulated
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bro really cooked
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Palito266/DMC Cooking
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@Brogeefrong because their entire existence is nonexistent at that point. It’s literally in the name nonexistent physiology. Again prove the plot hax affects them because that’s needed for the hax to work.
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That's ******* rare.
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Not whatever aspect they dont have
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That’s only an unconventional resistance to the hax, their nature is still beyond the idea of Existence and nothingness itself, which needs evidence of being affected by. So again you need evidence otherwise it’s a NLF.
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Why would all their aspects be of that nature, if they haven't shown those aspects in that nature
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I miss when Dante was just a dude with above average hax, instead of..Whatever this is
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