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Strongest 5D Characters on the Wiki

Nah, I'd win.
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Even if it is passive wouldnt it still be incon with the characters with Passive Plot Manipulation
u need feats of plot hax interacting with NEP
there is no way woody woodpecker for example is beating/incons against blazblue just coz he has passive plot hax
 
@Brogeefrong Please stop ripping out certain comments I make and using it for the purposes of this thread, broski 😭 Especially if you're gonna treat what I say about Sonic as authoritative, I don't think that gives me a very good look.

At least now I know what the random questions you ask in the Sonic General are about 💀
He just wanted to cook, Shake. Me and Green just burned down his kitchen.

Cooking is for masters like you,what can I say.
 
Dragon Ball Heroes is about to lose a good chunk of hax, among which is their Concept hax, so they should be below Sora at least.
 
@Livinmeme the infinite layer characters in BlazBlue are passives with their hax, that’s literally the whole plot point with the Embryo and why it has to leave reality since its existence messes with reality. Plus none of the toon force characters can interact with a type 2 NEP being so how is plot hax going to help them?
 
@Livinmeme the infinite layer characters in BlazBlue are passives with their hax, that’s literally the whole plot point with the Embryo and why it has to leave reality since its existence messes with reality. Plus none of the toon force characters can interact with a type 2 NEP being so how is plot hax going to help them?
Would someone with acausality type 5 be able to incon with characters from blazblue?
 
@Robo432343 do they have anything to help them win in matches or is their only thing just them being type 5s? If that’s all they got then it’s not really worth tying it with BB when it’s supposed to be “who’s the strongest on the tier” not “who can just dodge everyone’s abilities the most”.
 
@Robo432343 do they have anything to help them win in matches or is their only thing just them being type 5s? If that’s all they got then it’s not really worth tying it with BB when it’s supposed to be “who’s the strongest on the tier” not “who can just dodge everyone’s abilities the most”.
Concept manp, soul manp, mind manp, creation, reality warping is the best they have got ig. Aside from Aca type 5.
 
@Livinmeme the infinite layer characters in BlazBlue are passives with their hax, that’s literally the whole plot point with the Embryo and why it has to leave reality since its existence messes with reality. Plus none of the toon force characters can interact with a type 2 NEP being so how is plot hax going to help them?
Do they have narrative NEP
 
@Brogeefrong you mean the type 5 Aspect NEP? Because it’s in the page, and again it’s a type 2 Nature NEP, you need feats of affecting those in the first place.

@Reiner04 You do realize that the only reason it’s an incon is because the person just can’t be interacted with right? Not that it depends on who haxes first. If #8 can resist the hax the type 5 Acausal character has and can’t be put down in the same way 1-7 can then why would the type 5 go above all of them?
 
NEP is still bound by the dimensional plane the character is in, no matter the nature and type.

If that gets destroyed and the character in question doesn't have feats of existing after such a destruction,they are to be considered dead or incapacitated.

Don't know the specifics behind the characters we're dealing with here, so I'm not gonna say anything.
 
That’s a NLF unless you can prove their plot hax affects a type 2 NEP character in the first place, especially before they instantly die from PI.
 
i think i fked up the list again
i put shiva and krishna at number 4 and 5 (the only think they have to save themselves from losing is nonduality and acausality) but if someone were to make a krishna vs sacred ancestor vs match it would be inconclusive
wtf do i do about this
 
NEP is still bound by the dimensional plane the character is in, no matter the nature and type.

If that gets destroyed and the character in question doesn't have feats of existing after such a destruction,they are to be considered dead or incapacitated.

Don't know the specifics behind the characters we're dealing with here, so I'm not gonna say anything.
No? You literally don't exist. LMAO, to say that a NEP character gets killed/incapacitated by the destruction of everything, would inherently imply that
A. They exist
B. They have connections to reality
It is in the name goddamit
Also proof
 
@Brogeefrong that’s not how the aspects work, that makes them lack certain aspects of their being which makes them hard to affect them with hax in general, and again, saying plot hax can just work isn’t an argument if you lack the evidence to affect them in the first place, and before they get haxed to hell and back.
 
No? You literally don't exist. LMAO, to say that a NEP character gets killed/incapacitated by the destruction of everything, would inherently imply that
A. They exist
B. They have connections to reality
It is in the name goddamit
Also proof
It's all cool, too bad it's written on the page itself. It's an already accepted standard.
 
@Reiner04 You do realize that the only reason it’s an incon is because the person just can’t be interacted with right? Not that it depends on who haxes first. If #8 can resist the hax the type 5 Acausal character has and can’t be put down in the same way 1-7 can then why would the type 5 go above all of them?
That actually can be said about any character,
Say a character A exist, he has death manp and resistance towards concept manp.

Say the character at the top has resistance towards everything but death manp and he starts with concept hax.

Even if the guy A is lowest of this tier he would still solo character A. Hence it barely matters if the hypothetical character we assumed to exist can one shot due to uncertain circumstances or not. If overall, he stands above most.
 
@Reiner04 that’s hardly different than Knack beating the Warhammer assassins with 1-A power null just because he happens to have the exact counter to the power null in the first place, he doesn’t beat everyone else weaker than the assassins just because he has a hard counter conveniently, he just got lucky, where everyone else weaker than the assassins would kill Knack (and yes this is a real vs thread that happened here a while ago).
 
@Reiner04 that’s hardly different than Knack beating the Warhammer assassins with 1-A power null just because he happens to have the exact counter to the power null in the first place, he doesn’t beat everyone else weaker than the assassins just because he has a hard counter conveniently, he just got lucky, where everyone else weaker than the assassins would kill Knack (and yes this is a real vs thread that happened here a while ago).
Yes having such character so weak and still can interact with aca type 5 is nothing but a great/sheer of luck. Which shouldn't account of being considered at all.
 
@Reiner04 that’s hardly different than Knack beating the Warhammer assassins with 1-A power null just because he happens to have the exact counter to the power null in the first place, he doesn’t beat everyone else weaker than the assassins just because he has a hard counter conveniently, he just got lucky, where everyone else weaker than the assassins would kill Knack (and yes this is a real vs thread that happened here a while ago).
Those were good times..
 
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