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Straw hat pirates fight a legendary titan

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Regice

Regice

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Regice vs the entire straw hat crew from one piece,
Basically the straw hats try to take down regice using strategy or hax or whatever,
Battle is in marineford
 
This is a stomp, no one in the Straw Hat craw can do anything to a High 6-A, and they don't have any hax useful to deal with Regice.
 
Regice is about to be upgraded to FTL in speed and it is totally composed of Ice so Ryou wouldn't really work same with his Luffy and Zoros fire attacks which burn the inside.
 
"Any useful Hax". How lovely people are only thinking about Luffy, Zoro and Sanji, completely forgetting the others.

First of all, both Usopp and Brook has Sleep hax, which is also instantaneously. Chopper is capable of instantly figuring out Regice. Nami spams illusion creation and Intangibility in character. Jinbei has shockwave manipulation aka durability negation. As for Robin she could instantly restrain Regice via her thousands of hands that comes out of nowhere. Luffy's Future sight comes also in handy, he could always tell the others what's Regice is about to do. Usopp's impact wolf absorbs Regice's attack and redirect it to him. I could go on, so I think of them coming up with an actual strategy to beat him.
 
RazumaHiroki said:
"Any useful Hax". How lovely people are only thinking about Luffy, Zoro and Sanji, completely forgetting the others.

First of all, both Usopp and Brook has Sleep hax, which is also instantaneously. Chopper is capable of instantly figuring out Regice. Nami spams illusion creation and Intangibility in character. Jinbei has shockwave manipulation aka durability negation. As for Robin she could instantly restrain Regice via her thousands of hands that comes out of nowhere. Luffy's Future sight comes also in handy, he could always tell the others what's Regice is about to do. Usopp's impact wolf absorbs Regice's attack and redirect it to him. I could go on, so I think of them coming up with an actual strategy to beat him.
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The only way they can do noticeable damage is with durability negation, Robin's arms wouldn't do much to a multi-continent level monster, the best thing they can do is sleep hax
 
Regice said:
The only way they can do noticeable damage is with durability negation, Robin's arms wouldn't do much to a multi-continent level monster, the best thing they can do is sleep hax
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Lifting strength says otherwise. Because when it comes to restraining something it's always purely depending on whose lifting strength is stronger. Also Regice, doesn't resist Sleep hax. You are assuming Luffy's ryou and Jinbei's durability negation is just little damage. Luffy's ryou destroys things from the inside, heavy emphasis on "Destroy", it worked on Kaido, who's significantly larger than Regice so AP or DC is irrelevant here. Also Jinbei's fishman karate is essentially shockwave as long as Regice's body contains water, he'll be always affected by the shockwave, hurting it in the result.

Isn't Regice weak against fire? So shouldn't Sanji's DJ be his worst weakness, even if Regice "lands a hit on Sanji", it'll ultimately turn out to be an illusion created by Nami's clima tact. Furthermore, Luffy's Future sight actively will tell him what Regice is about to, not only Luffy's precognition powers also Zoro's and Sanji's as well (Sanji has future sight too). If Robin LS ends up to be stronger, sorry but she is definitely going to restrain him and the rest of the Strawhats are going to bully him.
 
Goken One shots FRA.

Weaknesses: Regice is vulnerable to Steel, Fighting, Rock, and Fire-type attacks. However, for its Fire weakness, its Pokédex entry states that its body cannot be melted by neither fire nor lava.

Can't Brook just sleep hax and then everyone attacks?
 
RazumaHiroki said:
Lifting strength says otherwise. Because when it comes to restraining something it's always purely depending on whose lifting strength is stronger. Also Regice, doesn't resist Sleep hax. You are assuming Luffy's ryou and Jinbei's durability negation is just little damage. Luffy's ryou destroys things from the inside, heavy emphasis on "Destroy", it worked on Kaido, who's significantly larger than Regice so AP or DC is irrelevant here. Also Jinbei's fishman karate is essentially shockwave as long as Regice's body contains water, he'll be always affected by the shockwave, hurting it in the result.

Isn't Regice weak against fire? So shouldn't Sanji's DJ be his worst weakness, even if Regice "lands a hit on Sanji", it'll ultimately turn out to be an illusion created by Nami's clima tact. Furthermore, Luffy's Future sight actively will tell him what Regice is about to, not only Luffy's precognition powers also Zoro's and Sanji's as well (Sanji has future sight too). If Robin LS ends up to be stronger, sorry but she is definitely going to restrain him and the rest of the Strawhats are going to bully him.
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Regice's lifting strength is 4 classes higher than Robin's, and Sanji's DJ would only do 2x damage wich would still be around small island level, and regice can use blizzard wich could potentially one shot the team if no one dodges
 
RazumaHiroki said:
Lifting strength says otherwise. Because when it comes to restraining something it's always purely depending on whose lifting strength is stronger. Also Regice, doesn't resist Sleep hax. You are assuming Luffy's ryou and Jinbei's durability negation is just little damage. Luffy's ryou destroys things from the inside, heavy emphasis on "Destroy", it worked on Kaido, who's significantly larger than Regice so AP or DC is irrelevant here. Also Jinbei's fishman karate is essentially shockwave as long as Regice's body contains water, he'll be always affected by the shockwave, hurting it in the result.

Isn't Regice weak against fire? So shouldn't Sanji's DJ be his worst weakness, even if Regice "lands a hit on Sanji", it'll ultimately turn out to be an illusion created by Nami's clima tact. Furthermore, Luffy's Future sight actively will tell him what Regice is about to, not only Luffy's precognition powers also Zoro's and Sanji's as well (Sanji has future sight too). If Robin LS ends up to be stronger, sorry but she is definitely going to restrain him and the rest of the Strawhats are going to bully him.
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Class Z (Not too weaker than Groudon)
Regice has higher LS then the entire OP verse combined
Regice no sells magma casually and resists fire
Ryou literally does nothing to something that is the exact same material both inside and out
Blizzard one shots the entire team regardless of FS unless the FS users literally run away
 
theultimate5105 said:
Solid Ice that no sells magma and fire
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Can't Zoro just Goken him?
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Regice said:
Regice's lifting strength is 4 classes higher than Robin's, and Sanji's DJ would only do 2x damage wich would still be around small island level, and regice can use blizzard wich could potentially one shot the team if no one dodges
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Key word "If" no one dodges. You are under the assumption that the monster trio with their precognition abilities and speed would just stand there and let that happen or not attempting to dodge said ability.

Alright, even if Robin's LS strength is weaker she is will attempt to use her abilities as a distraction. Similarly, how she fought against the Pacifista. And the rest of the Strawhats are supportive, chopper's ability allows him to figure out Regice's weakness, while instantly digging beneath him via his Horn point.

He does Regice counter invisibility? He cannot see Sanji and the same guy who's invisible can see briefly into the future for 6-10 secs and is as fast as him, so suggesting him to outpast Sanji isn't an option. Whenever one strawhat would be in danger Nami can use her illusion creation to trick Regice into believing he hit the real ones, she spams this ability in-character as shown when she fought Kalifa and the flying fish riders.

You still haven't refuted the part where I said he doesn't resist Sleep manipulation or Usopp's redirect the damage to him via impact wolf who acts independently of his behalf, meaning unlike a normal impact dial he is not the one who takes equal damage, in fact he doesn't take anything at all thanks to the wolf being a close-range ability.
theultimate5105 said:
Class Z (Not too weaker than Groudon)
Regice has higher LS then the entire OP verse combined
Regice no sells magma casually and resists fire
Ryou literally does nothing to something that is the exact same material both inside and out
Blizzard one shots the entire team regardless of FS unless the FS users literally run away
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Since when did it ever matter when something was completely made of a specific element? Zoro and Luffy literally attacked Monet without Haki. If they added Haki it's a GG. Now that Luffy has Ryou why does that matter now? It's literally described as "destroying from the inside". Luffy's incomplete Ryou destroyed a tree from the inside, which is made of 100% wood, since it is Busoshoku Haki it doesn't matter if it's made of Fire, Ice, Lighting or Water.
 
Regice said:
Regice doesn't have ears or a nose so that won't work
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does it have a soul?
theultimate5105 said:
Too big of a gap >65 Petatons vs around baseline island level (and yes I know Zoro should be scaling to top tiers) also no longer Limited Dura Neg
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Its a damage boost and information analysis... Damage Boost (Through Goken he is capable of cutting people and objects he normally couldn't with his regular attacks) Information Analysis (Can deduce how certain abilities work, find his opponents strengths and weakness, and could analyze a sword to tell it was cursed without prior knowledge. Capable of sensing the "Breath" of all things, allowing him to know the trajectory of something's movements before it happens as well as it's location despite not being visible to him. By doing so he can determine the speed, power and angle of where he should cut at allowing him to cut objects he otherwise couldn't with strength alone) Dura still won't matter
 
RazumaHiroki said:
Since when did it ever matter when something was completely made of a specific element? Zoro and Luffy literally attacked Monet without Haki. If they added Haki it's a GG. Now that Luffy has Ryou why does that matter now? It's literally described as "destroying from the inside". Luffy's incomplete Ryou destroyed a tree from the inside, which is made of 100% wood, since it is Busoshoku Haki it doesn't matter if it's made of Fire, Ice, Lighting or Water.
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Regice>>>>>>>>>A tree
it literally attacks the internal organs and shit of its target Regice doesn't have that weakness since it is pure ice
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
Its a damage boost and information analysis... Damage Boost (Through Goken he is capable of cutting people and objects he normally couldn't with his regular attacks) Information Analysis (Can deduce how certain abilities work, find his opponents strengths and weakness, and could analyze a sword to tell it was cursed without prior knowledge. Capable of sensing the "Breath" of all things, allowing him to know the trajectory of something's movements before it happens as well as it's location despite not being visible to him. By doing so he can determine the speed, power and angle of where he should cut at allowing him to cut objects he otherwise couldn't with strength alone)
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Well again Regice is pure ice so I doubt it has any weak points that he could cut
 
theultimate5105 said:
Regice>>>>>>>>>A tree
it literally attacks the internal organs and shit of its target Regice doesn't have that weakness since it is pure ice
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Poor reading comprehension. My point is not comparing Regice to a tree, my point is it doesn't matter if Luffy uses Ryou on an inanimate object, the fact his incomplete Ryou destroyed a Tree (which doesn't have internal organs) from the inside. The Luffy OP is using, is the person who completely mastered Ryou, also if it's the only thing you took from my argument for the sake of refuting I suggest you to reread it again.
 
RazumaHiroki said:
Poor reading comprehension. My point is not comparing Regice to a tree, my point is it doesn't matter if Luffy uses Ryou on an inanimate object, the fact his incomplete Ryou destroyed a Tree (which doesn't have internal organs) from the inside. The Luffy OP is using, is the person who completely mastered Ryou, also if it's the only thing you took from my argument for the sake of refuting I suggest you to reread it again.
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Its literally his power destroying the tree. It ignores dura by targeting internals
If it did what you think it does Kaido would be dead. It doesn't instantly erase whatever it hits which you think it does
MonkeyOfLife said:
and daz bones is pure steel...
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Daz bonez resistance to cutting attacks can block Mihawks slash
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Good point but the gap is still way too big to overcome
 
Also if your argument for Ryou not destroying Regice from the inside is "because he's made of solid ice". Remember that Zoro sliced Monet in half without Haki. Attacking a logia without Haki, means attacking the element itself meaning Zoro cut through the personification of "Ice". Keep in mind, he's just a proficient Busoshoku Haki user, while Luffy is advanced busoshoku Haki user.
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theultimate5105 said:
Its literally his power destroying the tree. It ignores dura by targeting internals
If it did what you think it does Kaido would be dead. It doesn't instantly erase whatever it hits which you think it does
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No it isn't. There's no indication that Luffy was destroying the tree with his power, it was his incomplete Ryou that's the whole point of him constantly using it, in the first place.

Name me one moment where Luffy killed an Enemy in one piece. Luffy literally used a Town-sized Giant Hand and punched Hody more than 100 times. Law used Gamma knife on both Kaido and Doflamingo, and they are still alive (technically Doffy should've died, but Kaido is just built different).
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Kaido literally tanked various Durability negation from Killer, Law, Zoro and Luffy. Using him to downplay Ryou is ridiculous.
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
the gap shouldn't really matter... Zoro can cut things stronger then steel
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Not really relevent
RazumaHiroki said:
No it isn't. There's no indication that Luffy was destroying the tree with his power, it was his incomplete Ryou that's the whole point of him constantly using it, in the first place.
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Haki is literally doing his power
RazumaHiroki said:
Kaido literally tanked various Durability negation from Killer, Law, Zoro and Luffy. Using him to downplay Ryou is ridiculous.
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No he didn't he got damaged by all of them
RazumaHiroki said:
Also if your argument for Ryou not destroying Regice from the inside is "because he's made of solid ice". Remember that Zoro sliced Monet in half without Haki. Attacking a logia without Haki, means attacking the element itself meaning Zoro cut through the personification of "Ice". Keep in mind, he's just a proficient Busoshoku Haki user, while Luffy is advanced busoshoku Haki user.
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Regice>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zoro>Monet
again showing people damaging things weaker then them for "Dura Neg"
 
RazumaHiroki said:
Key word "If" no one dodges. You are under the assumption that the monster trio with their precognition abilities and speed would just stand there and let that happen or not attempting to dodge said ability.

Alright, even if Robin's LS strength is weaker she is will attempt to use her abilities as a distraction. Similarly, how she fought against the Pacifista. And the rest of the Strawhats are supportive, chopper's ability allows him to figure out Regice's weakness, while instantly digging beneath him via his Horn point.

He does Regice counter invisibility? He cannot see Sanji and the same guy who's invisible can see briefly into the future for 6-10 secs and is as fast as him, so suggesting him to outpast Sanji isn't an option. Whenever one strawhat would be in danger Nami can use her illusion creation to trick Regice into believing he hit the real ones, she spams this ability in-character as shown when she fought Kalifa and the flying fish riders.

You still haven't refuted the part where I said he doesn't resist Sleep manipulation or Usopp's redirect the damage to him via impact wolf who acts independently of his behalf, meaning unlike a normal impact dial he is not the one who takes equal damage, in fact he doesn't take anything at all thanks to the wolf being a close-range ability.

Since when did it ever matter when something was completely made of a specific element? Zoro and Luffy literally attacked Monet without Haki. If they added Haki it's a GG. Now that Luffy has Ryou why does that matter now? It's literally described as "destroying from the inside". Luffy's incomplete Ryou destroyed a tree from the inside, which is made of 100% wood, since it is Busoshoku Haki it doesn't matter if it's made of Fire, Ice, Lighting or Water.
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Regice can use icy wind, a move that is 100% accurate and targets all enemies, and It slows down the targets, so it deals a very noticeable amount of damage because of its power and slows the straw hats down, so he would still hit sanji if he's invisible
 
Regice said:
Regice can use icy wind, a move that is 100% accurate and targets all enemies, and It slows down the targets, so it deals a very noticeable amount of damage because of its power and slows the straw hats down, so he would still hit sanji if he's invisible
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sleep hax
 
theultimate5105 said:
Haki is literally doing his power
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You are contradicting yourself now. RYOU is Luffy's power, Luffy isn't putting any power into his fist, he is letting the flow out. The Luffy who destroyed the Tree, had his teacher flashback and remembered his words regarding Ryou, if you claim it to be "sheer strength" then prove it, no in fact please explain to me why Luffy was demonstrating his sheer power on a tree?
theultimate5105 said:
No he didn't he got damaged by all of them
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Do you even know what Gamma knife does? Have you seriously skimmed through Law's explanation? Now show me a panel where Kaido can't move or anything. The fact Kaido is still able to move after taking a gamma knife from law, a durability negation from Killer which also destroys his internal organs and in addition to that Luffy's ryou. So honestly, Kaido is the worst way to downplay Ryou.
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theultimate5105 said:
Regice>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zoro>Monet
again showing people damaging things weaker then them for "Dura Neg"
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Dude, do you seriously have a bad reading comprehension? I explicitly said Zoro attacked SOMEONE WHO'S THE PERSONIFICATION OF ICE, not "HURTING" HER. It doesn't matter how much superior Regice is, the fact that he's made of solid ice still remains and the fact that Zoro and Luffy attacks people made of solid elements & Substances is also a fact (without Haki). Now if either of them were to use Haki, what do you believe will happen? Right, affecting Regice which is my point.
 
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