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Stop. Just ******* stop.

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"At least High 3-A"

No. Just no. What is wrong with you people? Why must you constantly downgrade Bill Cipher? At one point, he was Low 2-C. AT BEST. Not cool. Seriously people, how is it so difficult to keep Bill at a solid 2-A? There is barely anything debunking that. He's a threat to an infinite multiverse, simjple as that. We might as well downgrade Archie Sonic while we're at it, his power is a lot more difficul t to pin down than Bill. Jesus, I expected better from this site, but I expected wrong.
 
Dude blowing up like this is not a great idea. If you disagree with some ratings, voice your disagreement in threads. Introduce new information and arguments. If downgrades like that were agreed upon, there must have been something that was considered a reasonable contradiction.

In general, I'd recommend not getting way too attached to the tiers of characters, a lower tier isn't an insult or anything. I've had a 2-A of mine go to (as of now) 4-B, but I didn't take it personally. Just remember that the quality of a character isn't determined by their strength, and itsnok to like characters of any tier. Some of my favorite books don't really have anyone past 10-A. Just take this stuff less personally and you'll have a better time.
 
I agree with Wokistan.
 
1) Calm down.

2) Archie Sonic has actual 2-A feats such as defeating Archie Solaris, battling Master Mogul who can crush universes in his bare hands, reset the entire multiverse in the events of Worlds Collide, and defeated Sigma-3, someone who would transcend all limitations of the multiverse. Bill's 2-A relies on statements that he was a threat to the multiverse. For the record, I think Bill is 2-A but don't compare him to Archie Sonic.
 
Easy there, you need to keep your cool @MarioSonic. This is not a good way to explain your own reasonings of why you disprove the Bill Cipher downgrade.
 
Anyways, pretty much the only thing backing up for Bill Cipher's 2-A tier when unrestricted (besides threatening the multiverse) is possessing Space-Time Manipulation, which should allow him to control the entire infinite multiverse with it and its infinite timelines simultaneously without having to travel through each one at a time in order to do this.
 
I mean, I think that 2-A is still probably just Environmental Destruction or something of the like considering he's dancing the multiverse into submission rather then actually blowing it up manually

OP needs to chill though, no matter what the case is
 
Do I need to take you over my knee?

As everyone else has said, this is the exact wrong approach if you want to voice an issue. I realize that this is literally your first post and that you (most likely) have no idea how this site works, but I think it should be common sense that blowing a gasket and berating the community as a whole in your first thread is one of the worst moves you can make.

Just try to settle down. And if you want Bill's rating changed, gather your evidence and make a revision thread detailing why. That's what the rest of us have had to do.
 
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