Steven Universe CRT Thing

[Soupywolf5]

God, I'm awful at introductions

Rainbow Quartz 2.0 & Smoky Quartz: Both of these characters are High 7-A from backscaling from Opal. And while I'm fine with th, given the difference between Opal's AP (Superior to 16 Gigatons) and the start of High 7-A+ (2.65 Gigatons), these characters should be High 7-A+. And Rainbow 2.0 should get Energy Manipulation, Projection, and Healing, as he can fire Rainbow balls of energy from the end of his parasol, and create a rainbow wall of energy that hurts enemies and iirc heals allies that pass through it. Smoky Quartz should get a key for their Pink Form (Which would scale to Pink Form Steven, being "At least High 6-A, likely far higher"

Sunstone: They can heal allies and boost their defense could probably get Fire Manipulation, through this

Steven Universe: Steven should get a Resistance to Poison (This one would be in his movie key and onwards) and a Resistance to Acid (This would be in his season 1 key and onwards), as he could withstand the Centipeetle's acid and the Bio-Poison from Spinel's Injector. And while both of these things did hurt him, keep in mind that the Centipeetle's acid was strong enough to liquify things ittouchednear-instantly and the Injector's Bio-Poison was starting to melt the outside of a car in a longer but still brief timeframe, it also killed any living things it came into contact with near-instantly, such as Greg's arm, and Steven was exposed to both of these things for a decent period of time and only recieved mild scratches/burns from them. Also worth noting that Alexandrite was completely unaffected by the Bio-Poison, which fits with Gem Physiology granting a resistance to Acid

Peridot: Peridot's already got her turrets and mines listed on her profile, but given that they have much higher AP then her it would make sense to list their AP too (And they would be 7-A for harming enemies who could take hits from the other Crystal Gems)

Garnet, Amethyst, & Pearl: Amethyst and Pearl are listed as having Class 50 LS for being stronger then Season 5 Steven, however they should be upgraded to Class M (I know Garnet is already Class M, but her Class M is much lower then Steven's Class M [3.72721*10^6 while being gentle vs. 2.7583149663*10^8 done while extremely weakened) as all three of them were able to somewhat restrain Spinel towards the end of the movie

Lapis Lazuli: Lapis' water attacks can heal allies (And cure status effects) hit by them, So she should get Healing

White Diamond's possession can work in reverse

Blue Diamond can create clouds that make people/gems happy when they make contact with them

Yellow Diamond can fix shattered gems and permanentky change the size of a Gem's physical form (And Steven's Body)

Pink Diamond gets upgraded to "likely far higher" scaling to Pink Form Steven, And has her speed upgraded to "At least Relativistic, likely higher"

Spinel can twist and spin her limbs to fly (So she gets Flight

TLDR + anything else brought up:

-High 7-A fusions become High 7-A+

-Smoky Quartz gets a key for their Pink Form, which is "At least High 6-A, likely higher", and "At least Relativistic, likely higher" scaling to Pink Form Steven

-Rainbow Quartz gets Energy Manipulation, Energy Projection, and Healing

-Sunstone gets Healing, Fire Manipulation, and Whatever boosting someone else's stats would be

-Steven Universe gets a Resistance to Acid, and Regenerationn (Mid-Low, Which works near instantly on debilitating injuries such as broken bones, while lesser injuries like cuts and bruises heal at a slower but still accelerated rate) in his season 1 key, a Resistance to Poison for his Movie key which will be merged with his appearance in Future into one key (Which Also has a Resistance to Transmutation, Empathic Manipulation and Mind Manipulation), his Pink form will be rated as " At least High 6-A (Easily staggered and incapacitated the Diamonds), likely far higher dependent on emotions and shapeshifting" His Pink Form would also have Awakened Power, Rage Power, and Berserk Mode, due to becoming far stronger via numerous strong emotions including rage), this key would have a note explaining his Monster Form not being a form of corruption, but rather an extent of his shapeshifting, Credit to Goodyfresh for the note: "All evidence points towards Monster Form being shapeshifted Pink Form rather than 'corrupted,' as Blue only asked (rather than stating) if he was corrupted, and Garnet made the statement 'as long as he thinks he's a monster, he'll be one,' so he was shapeshifting due to his self-perception which has precedent from the episodes So Many Birthdays and Fragmented. Moreover, if he had been corrupted, the Diamonds would have had to use their auras, including his own, to cure him, but their auras were never seen." The Speed of the Diamonds and Pink Form Steven would be "At least Relativistic, likely higher" Due to being far faster than the characters with the Relativistic feats, his Pink form is "capable of Large Size via shape-shifting, varies from Type 0 to Type 1" and maybe type 2 depending on how the discussion goes (Written as "Large Size via Size Manipulation, Varies from Type 0 to Type 2")

-Peridot has her turrets and mines listed in her AP section

-Garnet, Amethyst, Pearl & anyone else who scales to them get Class M Lifting Strength scaling to Movie Steven/Spinel

-Lapis Lazuli gets Healing

-Yellow Diamond gets Healing, Transmutation, and Size Manipulation

-Blue Diamond gets Weather Manipulation

-Connie gets Class 50 Lifting Strength

-Spinel gets Flight

-White Diamond and Pink Mode Future/Monster/Pink Steven might potentially get upgraded to High 5-A (And yellow and Blue Diamond would be 5-A+) based off this:

Lapis Lazuli's hydrokinesis, Malachite, Alexandrite, Obsidian, the Partially Formed Cluster, and the Diamond Warships would scale to 5-A+ (Or 5-C if the low-end is accepted) RIP




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[Antvasima]

You can ask experienced and active members listed in the Steven Universe (verse) page to comment here if you wish.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

I think this all looks good.

 

[Goodyfresh]

Steven also needs Regenerationn as of the latest episode:

In Steven Universe Future, Episode 14, it was revealed that Steven has had numerous bone-fractures throughout his life, **but every one of them healed the instant they occurred.** This has apparently been happening since Season 1.

Not sure what level of Regenerationn it would be to heal skull-fractures the instant they happen, but whatever level of regen that is, it needs to be added to his profile.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Another minor upgrade, Connie should have her LS bumped up to class 50, she regularly matches the physical strength of steven, amethyst, pearl, and the holo pearls

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Another thing from the recent episodes, Steven seems to get heavier in his Pink Form? He sunk further into his bed when it turned on. Not super relevant but it's a thing apparently.

 

[Goodyfresh]

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I think that would be Mid-Low?

Yes that seems correct, as we have no evidence that he can regenerate severed body-parts. When we give him Mid-Low Regenerationn though, then a note needs to be made that his healing factor is **incredibly fast** compared to many other characters with Mid-Low: Apparently, he heals stuff like broken bones so quickly that he doesn't even notice it. Dr. Maheswaran said that from what she could tell, all the fractures healed "the instant they happened." And in the final battle with Spinel in the movie, he seemed to instantly heal from all his injuries as soon as he regained his full powers.

Another thing from the recent episodes, Steven seems to get heavier in his Pink Form? He sunk further into his bed when it turned on. Not super relevant but it's a thing apparently.

Yeah, he seems to have self-mass-manipulation in that form. Also, he has self-SIZE-manipulation in Pink Form, as we saw he can grow parts of his body, or his whole body, to giant sizes. As of now, he is capable of Large Size: Type 0 (giant sized, but not building-sized), as at one point in Episode 14, he grew to a large enough size that a room in a hospital was only barely able to contain him while he was crouched down on the floor. Seemed like he was maybe around 20 or 30 feet tall, as a rough guesstimate.

Okay so here's the catch in my thinking about these revisions: Out of those revisions others have mentioned, I **STRONGLY disagree** that Connie should have Class 50 lifting-strength. It seems to me that all the cases in which she "matches the physical strength of gems" are just PIS in order to keep her from getting stomped and make sure she can stay relevant in battles. I mean the thing is (and someone correct me if I am wrong) that if someone had the strength to lift at least 25 tons, then they probably wouldn't just be Wall Level, ya know? Having that kind of physical strength would literally **automatically** place someone's striking-strength as around Tier 9-A to maybe even Tier 8-C.

Although if others strongly disagree with me about the Connie LS thing, or if I am wrong about the LS translating to Striking Strength thing, I will drop it.

 

[CrackNet]

Idk why Connie isn't 7A when she fought Topaz, Steven,holo Pearls corrupted gems and clusters Also Pearl should get an upgrade as her holo Pearls scale to her and she can potentially use them in battle

 

[Goodyfresh]

Idk why Connie isn't 7A when she fought Topaz, Steven,holo Pearls corrupted gems and clusters
Also Pearl should get an upgrade as her holo Pearls scale to her and she can potentially use them in battle

Well yeah I can support the Connie having Class 50 LS thing if we decide that she is somehow 7-A. Although I mean that still seems like a stretch, as someone who has actually watched the show religiously (I still personally feel like her being shown as able to contend with such characters was just PIS to keep her relevant, as the show makes it pretty clear that humans are far, far below gems), but I will go along with whatever the community decides on this.

I think the big changes to be made here though are the ones in the Original Post involving resistances and scaling, and Steven Getting Mid-Low (extremely rapid/instantaneous) Regenerationn, as well as self-mass-manipulation and size-manipulation up to Large Size Type 0. It's a fact that the majority of VS-Matches which people create for characters from this series are going to be for Steven himself, so our top priority should be to make sure that his, the Main Character's, profile, is as accurate as possible in including all his abilities.

 

[Soupywolf5]

-7-A Connie

Now you've got my attention good fellow

 

[Soupywolf5]

But I don't really see it being PIS when iirc she fights various Gems through the series pretty consistently

 

[The_Wright_Way]

No. Rose's sword explicitly ignores durability against gems and Holo-Pearls were fought in training, they wouldn't be trying to kill her. The fight with Steven was friendly at best. She's not 7-A.

 

[Soupywolf5]

yeah, figured (That's a darn shame though)

 

[Soupywolf5]

But her being 9-B wouldn't disprove Class 50 Lifting Strength (Especially since this guy did a thing that got Class 100 Lifting Strength, and only got 9-B AP [Which was actually lower end 9-B then Connie's AP])

 

[Goodyfresh]

But her being 9-B wouldn't disprove Class 50 Lifting Strength (Especially since this guy did a thing that got Class 100 Lifting Strength, and only got 9-B AP [Which was actually lower end 9-B then Connie's AP])

Okay so I retract that aspect of what I said about her (I did say to correct me if I was mistaken), if we have past precedent with people who are only 9-B having lifting-strength that high, then I suppose that could make sense. Maybe her slow-twitch muscles are just waaaay stronger than her fast-twitch (explosive power) muscles, for some reason?

I think the biggest things to keep emphasizing, are Steven's instantaneous Mid-Low Regenerationn, his resistances listed by the OP here, his self-mass-manipulation in Pink Form, and his self-size-manipulation up to Large Size Type 0 in his Pink Form. Those are important additions we need to make to his profile, especially the Regenerationn since it is clearly a useful ability in battle considering how quickly (instantly) he regenerates. For the super-high-speed Mid-Low Regenerationn, we should put it in his list of powers for Season One Steve, as Dr. Maheswaran seemed to think that this has been happening during his battles from the very beginning (and that head-butt which Jasper gave him in Season 1 was definitely the cause of one of his skull-fractures, as it was one of only a couple injuries to ever actually knock him unconscious but he clearly has way more healed fractures than just from the times he was knocked out).

One strange thing to note about his Regenerationn: It seems to mostly only activate at instantaneous-speed when the injuries are actually **debilitating**, like a bone-fracture that would prevent him from moving or fighting. Things like black eyes, on the other hand, seem to heal only somewhat faster than the normal human rate (he did heal from the black-eye from Jasper's head-butt more quickly than a human would, but not instantly like he did from the skull-fracture). So his Regenerationn seems to be selective in its speed based on how severe the injury is, with the severe injuries healing instantly and the less-severe ones healing in a few hours.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Another thing from the recent episodes that could be used for future calcs, Steven is apparently 5'6" in Future. Nice thing to keep in mind.

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/MD1SFZc

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Jesus so the average height for a human is like 8 feet tall

 

[Goodyfresh]

So what are everyone's thoughts on the mid-low regen which occurs instantly for major injuries and in a few hours for minor ones, and for his Pink Form granting mass-manipulation and shapeshifting to Large Size Type 0, as additions for Steven's profile along with all the stuff already noted by OP?

If we add the regen, how would we be able to note in his profile that the speed is selective depending on the severity of the injury, but appears to be battle-applicable since stuff like bone-fractures heal in an instant?

 

[Soupywolf5]

Tried calcing Steven's large form's height, and was kind of dissapointed I also found out Weekly's breathing down my neck

 

[CrackNet]

No. Rose's sword explicitly ignores durability against gems and Holo-Pearls were fought in training, they wouldn't be trying to kill her. The fight with Steven was friendly at best. She's not 7-A.

Idk where you get the part with ignoring durability, being in training doesn't change anything and with the Steven either, who says they need to want to kill her for her to scale to them Also you ignored the Topaz thing So yes, she is 7A and also relativistic in speed

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Its flat out stated that Connie's and Rosen's sword ignore dura against gems

 

[CrackNet]

Its flat out stated that Connie's and Rosen's sword ignore dura against gems

Where

 

[WeeklyBattles]

When Bismuth was describing how it worked

 

[Goodyfresh]

Sooooo WeeklyBattles, about that Mid-Low Regenerationn which occurs instantly for major injuries and in a few hours for minor ones, what are your thoughts on it? It seems pretty cut-and-dry, right?

Do you think we can add it to his profile for Season 1 and onwards?

Sorry if I keep bringing it up, it's just that I feel that this new reveal of his healing-factor is honestly the most battle-applicable of his newly revealed powers here (well along with the resistances mentioned by OP, of course), and thus the most important to add to his profile. My big question though is whether it would be okay to add it to his profile for as early as Season 1.


Seems like the questions of him having Large Size Type 0 in Pink Form, and of Connie NOT being 7-A, are pretty much resolved at this point, right?

 

[Soupywolf5]

While I said I didn't want to talk about Future right now, I did want to know, what would Steven's Pink Coat Form (I heard it called that once, and I like the name so that's what I'm going to call it) count as? (As in, would it be Statistics Amplification, Rage Power, or something entirely different?)

 

[Goodyfresh]

While I said I didn't want to talk about Future right now, I did want to know, what would Steven's Pink Coat Form (I heard it called that once, and I like the name so that's what I'm going to call it) count as? (As in, would it be Statistics Amplification, Rage Power, or something entirely different?)

I mean right now it seems to be activated by extreme emotions, but that is only because he is having major mental issues right now and can't properly control the form. It isn't just rage-power though, as it actually seems to be activated more often by things like sadness or stress than by anger (basically ANY "negative" emotions will activate it). In terms of what it does? It definitely significantly Stats-Amps, and also seems to grant him some new powers like being able to grow to Large Size Type 0 and manipulate his own mass.

I know you don't want to talk about Future right now, but it is legitimately very important that we update his profile with the Mid-Low Regenerationn which he has been revealed to have since Season 1, which instantaneously heals major injuries (bone fractures) while healing minor ones (black eyes) in a few hours, as that power is very battle-applicable. Not only that but even though that power was only just now revealed in Future, it is a power that he has apparently had since the very beginning of the franchise (think when he recovered so quickly from Jasper's headbutt despite being like a gazillion times weaker than her at the time), so it is still quite relevant to discuss it in your thread.

 

[Soupywolf5]

Oh, I'm perfectly fine with discussing an ability he's likely had since Season 1, and I'm only really "against" discussing Future because he might get new abilities in future (heh) episodes (Tbh Technology Manipulation kind of came out of nowhere)

 

[Soupywolf5]

Also I'm pretty sure a 7-A+ head butting a Low 7-C would do a bit more then fracture their skull

 

[Goodyfresh]

Also I'm pretty sure a 7-A+ head butting a Low 7-C would do a bit more then fracture their skull

Well the show has a whole lot of P.I.S. in it, like in most works of fiction the writers/storyboarders and Rebecca Sugar herself are far more concerned with telling the story than with consistent power-scaling. I mean, Amethyst got her gem cracked and almost died once just from falling onto a rock. So what you're referring to was certainly just PIS.

Oh, I'm perfectly fine with discussing an ability he's likely had since Season 1, and I'm only really "against" discussing Future because he might get new abilities in future (heh) episodes (Tbh Technology Manipulation kind of came out of nowhere)

Okay yeah, I figured that since it is an ability he has had since the beginning, you would be fine with discussing the Mid-Low Regenerationn. It is just so weird how it seems to be selective, where the most severe injuries heal instantly while the more minor ones take a few hours.

Yeah I totally forgot that he has technology manipulation now. We have no evidence though that it's battle-applicable, so far all he can really do with it is project video. There's no good reason to add it to his profile unless he ends up showing the ability to use it in combat.

 

[Soupywolf5]

An ability not being comat-applicable doesn't mean we don't add it to their profile (We just specify that the ability isn't combat-applicable iirc)

 

[Soupywolf5]

Also if Garnet, Amethyst and Pearl got Class M Lifting Strength, who, if anyone would scale to them? (Asking so I can add them to the OP)

 

[Goodyfresh]

Also if Garnet, Amethyst and Pearl got Class M Lifting Strength, who, if anyone would scale to them? (Asking so I can add them to the OP)

Jasper and Topaz should scale to them for sure since their physical-strength is shown as on-par with or superior to those characters. Spinel probably, since she as well is shown as even with them in physical strength. Ummmmmmmm. . . .Rose Quartz, right? Also of course, any fusion containing the above mentioned characters would get At Least Class M. Oh, and Bismuth, Bismuth should get Class M since she definitely scales in physical strength to the other Crystal Gems! Can we think of anyone else?

So for the Regenerationn for Steven, is there some way to note in his profile how quickly it works? A lot of people with Mid-Low have regen that isn't actually fast enough to be combat-applicable. Also his regen is very unusual in how it works way faster for severe injuries (bone breaks) than minor ones (bruises). In the past I've sometimes seen (and used) notes in parentheses after a power to specifiy how it works for a character, and since Steven's regen is so unusual, that may be something to do here. So maybe we could add it in like "Regenerationn (Mid-Low, works instantaneously in combat for debilitating injuries such as bone-fractures and takes hours for minor injuries such as bruises)."

 

[Soupywolf5]

Spinel's the Gem ''they ''scale to

 

[Goodyfresh]

Spinel's the Gem they scale to

Lol well there ya go, I didn't even realize that, my bad! I obviously know a lot about the show but haven't always kept up to date with the VsB developments regarding it, sorry. I assume that Spinel got it thanks to her feats with the Injector, right? Also I see now you mentioned them scaling to her in your OP, but it has been since yesterday that I read it so I totally forgot, sorry.

I just checked and Rose already has Class M in her profile. Bismuth and Jasper already have it listed too. And so does Topaz! So no such changes are needed unless there is anyone else we can think of.

So what are your thoughts on my idea of noting the regen in Steven's profile the way I proposed? Just so that people unfamiliar with him and the verse will realize, during debates, how combat-applicable it is?

 

[Soupywolf5]

Spinel gets it for scaling to Movie Steven, who could lift her Injector while almost completely drained of power

 

[Soupywolf5]

As for the Regenerationn, what you've listed looks fine, but I'm probably not the best judge, so I'd like to see what others think

 

[Goodyfresh]

Spinel gets it for scaling to Movie Steven, who could lift her Injector while almost completely drained of power

Ohhhh yeah that's right, that makes sense, he did totally manage to lift the injector a bit which was an absolutely insane feat considering how weakened he was! Honestly if he could do a Class M feat like that while as weakened as he was, it is likely that he and the Crystal Gems (and all those who scale to them) should have lifting-strength WAY above what we saw in that feat, maybe even Class G, but unfortunately we of course can't prove that at all by VsB's standards, so we have to keep the number and class as they are from the calc.

Sorry again btw that I totally forgot you had mentioned Spinel as being the person everyone scales to in your OP, as I mentioned I hadn't read the OP since I first started checking out this thread yesterday, my bad.

As for the Regenerationn, what you've listed looks fine, but I'm probably not the best judge, so I'd like to see what others think

Okay yeah, I'd be interested to see what WeeklyBattles has to say on the matter, if they are willing to give their input again then we should definitely defer to their judgement as a content-mod, retired admin, and SU verse-supporter.

 

[CrackNet]

When Bismuth was describing how it worked

OK so assuming you are right (it is not mentioned in the profile of the sword) if she has a weapon that's that strong then she can beat 7A characters, therefore she is at that level with the sword Also she blocks an attack from topaz's weapon If she can use the sword to beat 7A characters then that version of Connie is 7A,its quite simple Also her speed should be realitivistic for sure as she constantly is able to keep up with gems

 

[The_Wright_Way]

1. The weapon ignores durability. It's not an AP thing.

2. The weapon has 6-C durability. That's why it's able to stop 7-A strikes.

 

[Goodyfresh]

1. The weapon ignores durability. It's not an AP thing.
2. The weapon has 6-C durability. That's why it's able to stop 7-A strikes.

Yes exactly. To further clarify for others as to what The Wright Way is explaining here (I just want to make sure there will be no further arguments that Connie is 7-A and relativistic, lol):

Bismuth designed the swords to work against Gems and Gem-Weaponry/Tech in the same way that Wolverine's claws work against opponents in Marvel. You know how Wolverine is only Tier 9-A but can stab Tier 4-B characters (Hulk, Thanos) with his adamantium claws? Same thing with Connie's sword, only in this case the effect works exclusively against Gems and Gem Technology. This means we definitely cannot give her a 7-A key, as she can only harm 7-A opponents when they are Gems; she would be completely useless against 7-A characters from literally any other verse.

About Connie's speed that CrackNet mentioned: Just like when Steven had subsonic speed but relativistic reactions in one of his keys, Connie only has "at least normal human" speed but has **reactions and reflexes** which are relativistic. She has shown no evidence whatsoever of movement-speed feats on par with gems who are relativistic, but she has shown the capability to react to them by using her extreme skill to anticipate and parry their relativistic movements. It also helps her in this regard that her training is so ingrained in her that she has Instinctive Reaction.