Stella Vermillion vs Charizard

[Ionliosite]

Ok, so Char resists heat and fire to a big extent. How does he deal with Phantom Form?

 

[00potato]

Isn't that with her sword? He can fly.

 

[Madotsuki24]

Stella uses concep manip which is the element of Dragon which Charizard is weak to and uses it to kill Charizard, GG.

 

[Ionliosite]

Her fire, due to coming from her Device, also has the effects of Phantom Form iirc.

 

[Ionliosite]

Stella uses concep manip which is the element of Dragon which Charizard is weak to and uses it to kill Charizard, GG.

... wow, this didn't cross my mind at all. I'm not sure she can kill Char with that tho.

 

[00potato]

... wow, this didn't cross my mind at all. I'm not sure he can kill Char with that tho.

Wait, Stella is a he?

 

[Ionliosite]

Sorry, my mistake.

 

[00potato]

Nah I know, just messing around.

 

[00potato]

I will actually give it to the dragon impersonator due to Phantom Form on her attacks. Charizard might have a range advantage with a few attacks but with speed equal, she can dodge more easily and actually benefits from her main tools, Phanton form and sword screws over melee (X's main tool.) and he will struggle to hit her due to Trackless step

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I mean, what does Phantom Form really do extra other than cause pain if fate blows are landed. It'd be fatal in material anyway.

 

[Ionliosite]

In Material Form, yeah, but Phantom Form is what's being discussed.

 

[Schnee_One]

Not really?

Landing a blow on Charizards head would not kill him due to the AP gap being non existent and Charizard being immune to fire. but phantom form would incap due to it being pain manipulation

Stella can one shot while Charizard can't and Stella resists his main attack while also having a passive forcefield and AP and Dura advantage

So, Stella I think

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Would it tho? Mega Evolution has been described as causing immense pain to the Pokémon (Glailie breaks its jaw, Tyranitar's back is blown open, Garchomp, Scizor, and Houndoom have parts of them that are literally melting/melted) with some notable exceptions, and they can fight with said energy no problem.

I ain't against Stella winning of course (kinda expected her to win when made). I just don't want this to be Phantom Form gg.

 

[Schnee_One]

Getting hit with Phantom Form is able to KO people who can stand having their organs melted by poison and being impaled by blades

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Fair enough.

Fight to the death then

 

[Schnee_One]

Reasoning doesn't really change much, she's stronger, resistant to fire, and apparently has a passive 6x amp which is kinda silly but meh

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Isn't said amp for her base and Dragon Heart or whatever it's called is the amp?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Oh btw get on Ikki vs Lucario too

 

[Schnee_One]

Isn't said amp for her base and Dragon Heart or whatever it's called is the amp?

Nah it's a separate amp, it's a speed amp that basically just increases her speed to that degree, Dragon Spirit is a massive strength Amp but that's already accounted for.

Anyway, Stella hits him with Phantom Form, Charizard passes out, then Stella impales him when he's KOd

 

[Kamen_Rider_Xross]

To be fair, Charizard also has some amps with both Sword and Dragon Dance. Those are Egg moves.

 

[Madotsuki24]

Stella FRA.

 

[00potato]

Reasoning doesn't really change much, she's stronger, resistant to fire, and apparently has a passive 6x amp which is kinda silly but meh

How can an amp be passive? That makes no sense?

 

[00potato]

I still vote for Stella.

 

[Schnee_One]

How can an amp be passive? That makes no sense?

Not necessarily passive, but pretty much the moment you start a fight the Amp starts

 

[00potato]

That makes more sense.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Not necessarily passive, but pretty much the moment you start a fight the Amp starts

It's more like, when a person is trying to move, they become faster, when they're trying to attack, they become stronger.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Btw since i don't see it mentioned. Charizard doesn't resist Stella's fire. Her fire is core of the sun heat. Surface of the sun doesn't even hold a candle to it.

 

[Madotsuki24]

Okay, so it would be NLF for Charizard to resist Stella's fire, good to know.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Heat doesn't ignore durability. Unless it's of a higher tier, it's not an NLF. Otherwise, Stella's Heat would be enough to take down say, Krillin, as he doesn't resist heat.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

She pretty much would. Krillin has never shown durability to heat. They affect different durabilities, so it pretty much ignores "physical/blunt force durability".

And it's funny how you mentioned Krillin when in that very same show Broly dies from the surface of the sun and Goku wonders if he'll survive the core of the earth.

 

[Hydroboi]

Charizard can buff his speed and attacks with dragon dance, and Charizard had others attacks that fire, like earthake, Air slash and Dragon claw.


Don't Forget his talent in the normal form, Blaze and Sun Power. And his mega form X have Tough Claw, who boost his physical attacks.

And my boi have a GIGANTAMAX too.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I think that's 4 for stella assuming Ion didn't vote.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

For your safety, Stella FRA

 

[Firephoenixearl]

5

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Stella FRA.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Heat doesn't ignore durability. Unless it's of a higher tier, it's not an NLF. Otherwise, Stella's Heat would be enough to take down say, Krillin, as he doesn't resist heat.

Goku had to wear a specialised suit to go to the Earths core in Super.

 

[Ionliosite]

And my boi have a GIGANTAMAX too.

This is Mega Charizard X, he can't Gigantamax.

Also, Stella FRA

 

[Madotsuki24]

Grace period has started.

 

[Hydroboi]

My boi Charizard will lose chain.

 

[Madotsuki24]

Grace has ended, so this can now be added.