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GRACE! Ash vs. Red: True Final Battle for World Champion! (7-0-0)
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Dosen't Ash more or less stomp Red?
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What makes you say so?
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I voting Ash for reasons above.
That he is better overall.
That he is better overall.
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Ash wins this
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Without plotarmor i go with Red
Ash is way to inconsistent and Leon was a fraud all along
And Ash never defeated Cynthias Knakrack aka her strongest Pokemon
Also giving Red all Megas is lol.
Ash is way to inconsistent and Leon was a fraud all along
And Ash never defeated Cynthias Knakrack aka her strongest Pokemon
Also giving Red all Megas is lol.
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Leon consistently beat her tho…
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“Without plot armor” Yeah okay, you can ignore blatant feats if you want.
Ash ~ Leon > Cynthia. That’s just a fact, like it or not
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I'll be voting Ash for the above reasons as well.
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Grace has started then
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Huh, I actually am curious. Is Ash currently the strongest trainer in the franchise?
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I think he’s in the running, at least (though there is the PLA protag…)
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Yeah, was thinking of them, but it's a bit fucky, since Arceus could just make an even weaker avatar for them to fight. But yeah, if we take it that they are fighting a full stronk avatar, they would be the strongest.
Fair, fair.
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Removing the PLA protag from the picture, though, I think Ash is genuinely the strongest Trainer in the franchise. Leon's also up there, considering it took extreme difficulty for Ash to beat him
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