Stars in Kaguya's Dimension?

[Dariel_Senju]

Well, recently a comment on a forum made me think and notice this detail. Kaguya tier is Planet Level because it is assumed that the destruction of the dimension that Zetsu mentions only covers the planet where it was. However in that dimension also was a star, a detail that overlooked during this time:


You can see clearly how shadows are generated, so it shows that there is a star in such a dimension at a prudent distance that does not incinerate everyone on such a planet or to be an icy desert. So in the series it is mentioned that Kaguya would destroy all that dimension in which there exists at least one planet and at least one star, this fact should not rethink the tier given here to Kaguya? This sounds like a possible upgrade to the Narutoverse.

 

[Huesito88]

This has been talked about many times and it's even a rule.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Pretty sure this is a banned topic

 

[Dariel_Senju]

Thanks for the fast answers. I see but everything points to that fact, I see little consistency categorize it as Planet Level when the evidence points to it is much greater to that.

Although I would like to see the discussion on the subject and look at the evidence that indicates that it is only Planet Level and see if they are convincing.

 

[Dariel_Senju]

Pretty sure this is a banned topic

Why is banned topic?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

We debunked that countless of time, and we are generally sick of dealing with it.

To answer your question more directly, not only is this highly inconsistent with other showings, but it is very possible to simulate light and stars without creating them directly.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

To be fair, I don't remember anyone debunking it.

But regardless, its a banned topic so I don't think its fine to bring it up again.

 

[Dariel_Senju]

I understand that it is a rough subject, I suppose if you are certainly right on this fact, the most coherent thing is to mention it beyond the paragraph I read about it in this community. And honestly I see it unlikely that there is some kind of star-like port and good, there is evidence that if there are stars in the dimensions of Kaguya http://imgur.com/BHMfWA9

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

That doesn't show that the stars are physically present. Again, it's very possible for a pocket dimension to "show" stars and celestial bodies without having them whole.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Well the same thing could be said about dimensions such as Sonic's Arabian Knights universe and it was accepted as a real universe because of stars and what not.

Not saying we should accept this and also not saying Kaguya's dimension is a universe (because it isnt) but if we're accepting dimensions such as that real for those reasons, then shouldnt Kaguya's be assumed to be real?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Most likely because its highly inconsistent with previous Naruto showings.

Frankly, our exact rules about background stars confuses me too.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Point there, but another fair point, Kaguya IS the strongest in the verse and I don't think anyone except Madara can scale to her. Her being ridiculously higher than the rest shouldnt mess up the scaling.

Still, im fine with whatever is done about this topic. Just giving some of my input on the matter.

 

[Dariel_Senju]

Honestly, it sounds more credible that such a dimension has its own or several stars that there is a kind of space window through which the light of a star in a neighboring dimension enters.

And well, I have read other issues created on this issue and more or less understand why it is a banned topic, although honestly the arguments that you use to invalidate this fact sound very unconvincing because in Naruto did not demonstrate to destroy stars previously devalued Can do so at that time.

I understand the point of you but the arguments against it sound nothing conclusive is there any concrete evidence that invalidates it? And well it is something that the administrators here decide and I just wanted to clarify my doubt, although I would like to see evidence as this community stands out for using tests and logic.

 

[The_Everlasting]

@Kukui

The fact that she didn't instantly defeat Naruto and Sasuke tells you enough.

And the argument of "She was holding back" doesn't work because, with the gap between Low 5-B and 4-C, she could've decimated them while she was holding back.

 

[DontTalk]

There are no less than 6 threads linked in the rule about this topic not being re-discussed yet again.

It's just speculation since I didn't read them, but I would think those threads probably explain why it is like it is (and I would think they realized that a lightsouce exists in those as well), so that we don't need to rediscuss a 7th or however many time it is now.

(And I am just saying this because I dislike the practice of rediscussing things until upgrades are made, not because I am particulary interested in the topic)

 

[Omimi]

To be fair, I don't remember anyone debunking it.
But regardless, its a banned topic so I don't think its fine to bring it up again.

dont know why but in this wiki its an outlier feats

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

Again, it's very possible for a pocket dimension to "show" stars and celestial bodies without having them whole.

If you have evidence suggesting so that is.

Aside from that, I don't see anyone critiquing this thread aside from the fact it's a banned topic, which I do not approve of.

If there's evidence explicitly showing or implying the stars to be illusionary, then we can close this thread without haste.

 

[The_Everlasting]

@AMM

It's not that it's banned, it's that we've discussed it several times before and have agreed to not use it. This thread is offering nothing new.

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

Oh I see, I got nothing left to say in that case.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

@Kukui
The fact that she didn't instantly defeat Naruto and Sasuke tells you enough.

And the argument of "She was holding back" doesn't work because, with the gap between Low 5-B and 4-C, she could've decimated them while she was holding back.

With all due respect Ever, isnt that argument kind of flawed?

That would be like saying Beerus isnt 3-A since he didnt instantly defeat Goku and that him holding back wouldnt work because he could still decimate him while holding back.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Beerus wasn't trying to outright defeat Goku, he wants a challenge, and wanted to see what Goku's full power was like. This is different as Kaguya was actively trying to defeat Naruto and Sasuke but couldn't.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Well in the beginning Kaguya had more than one reason not to kill them as you already know, she didnt start trying to defeat them until later on. And has anyone considered this maybe being extreme PIS? After all if even one of them died the whole world wouldve ended and Kaguya would win, which wouldnt be allowed to happen.

I mean, we have something as ridiculously PIS like Tier 2 Arceus getting beaten by a Meteor......

Kaguya is the god tier of Naruto and I don't think it her being matched by weaker beings should be that much of a case if anything.

 

[Dariel_Senju]

Well I just wanted to know if this spontaneous doubt that came to me had any meaning or if there was something concrete that invalidated it, does not really believe the issue waiting to be changed overnight Kaguya from Planet to Star because it sounds unrealistic a Change so great so easy although I was not aware of the previous history of this subject so I apologize if I disturb order in this community. And I did not expect it to change as if switching to Deidara from City to Island or Large Island even when there is tangent evidence seems difficult, doing this for a few shadows sounded unlikely from the start.

Although I would like to see that they offered some hard evidence to deny this fact because honestly if the reason why it is not so is because you do not want it to be so there will always be doubt in all those who disagree with you something that would not happen if you Invalid with solid arguments.