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Stardust Crusaders vs. Team Bucciarti, except now it's addable (10-0-0)

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And who created the profiles? There's some stuff missing and better explanations to be placed there
 
Is the Colosseum large enough for Fugo to feel safe using PH without affecting the rest of the team?

Magicians red could probably neutralizes him anyway

The thing with these team battles is that we never know who is interacting with who, and that usually determines who will win.
 
Spice Girl is definitely strong and fast, she's the strongest member of Team Bruno, but she isn't helping, Crusaders outmuscle her hard (Emerald Splash, Chariot and Plat are all a huge issue and likely win in a direct 1v1 (Plat especially), MR too but less so though his pyrokinetic abilities and extra aoe and range mitigate that entirely. She could rip apart HG but HG abuses his long range so he likely won't ever get in contact, The Fool is logia, regens and her ability wont do anything so that's something and HP sucks anyone can beat him).

She needs to be tag team tbh, kinda unlucky being putted against the most buff group overall while being the muscle of her group.

Also let's get this out of the way, Moody Blues is deadweight, he isn't doing.

Is the Colosseum large enough for Fugo to feel safe using PH without affecting the rest of the team?
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Yes but also no. Depends where he uses it, and there's the issue of him being vulnerable to it, while PH having shit range. It's honestly a wonder how he even knew about it without dying first. PH is a wild card, but it's very dangerous, to everyone, ally and foe. Except The Fool, he should be immune to it due to his physiology of being literally just sand.
 
Yeah I feel like voting for team Crusaders here
we've got
-Time-stopping neck breaking star platinum
-Big brain Joseph
-Ranged fire spammer MR
-Logia dog
-Extremely fast knight
-Dude with range danmaku

I feel like the bruno team just loses
 
Well, First of all, we are using no time stop Jotaro as stated by the OP

Well, I agree with all said by charuto, but let's start with

What van the crusaders to against giorno damage tranfell? If theye try to hit him or something he just need a frog in his pocket to protect him

Mista and narancia bassically have the most range here, only lossing to Kakyoin It self, but the nature of mista stand make him bassicaly immune to smerald splash

In meele fight, Stick fingers can disable jotaro and polnarefe If It land one hit into the stands, also the self zippering habilit is incredable to dodge atacks

Last, they have a healer in Giorno, so if any one suffer a lethal injure, giorno can recover them

Hell, not to mention they have a lot more combination atacks, like giorno using his power in mista bullets, now he can trow his animals and plants all around the battlefield, Trish using Spice girls to make jotaro bassically useles here in combat sinse he can't destroy rubber by punching It

The most dangerous ones are MR and SC sinse one is a danherous meele fighter eith a perfurating and slashing weapon and the other just trowing fire every were

Bruno can counter both by zippering trough the ground and taking the rest of the team with him

Also, is Bucciarati a zombie here?
 
Voting Crusaders due to having more powerful members (They have 5 8-Cs with one 9-A while team Bucciarati has 3 8-Cs and three 9-Bs), plus having more area-control based powers

Though I will say, they're kinda screwed if Fugo isn't taken out almost immediately
Still voting Crusaders, though
 
HG with Emerald Splash and stupid range, tbh he could probably just carpet bomb, if given like a minute or two, he could even set up the 20m radius splash. Possession too is a thing (though this is more a last resort thing).
Plat being able to one shot literally the whole other team, blitz them, and do so for free via time stop (Hell, he's effectively Diavolo but worse but without the precog, and we all know how hard Diavolo was to **** with), even without time stop he's blitzing and one punching everyone who he engages.
Joseph is whatever, is what I would say but tbh the dude could probably go up to and punch out half of them himself, HP is useful support
Chariot is fast knight that blitzes and one shots all of them if not for the range, but he does have shoot the sabre to surprise kill at range, though will be left kinda vulnerable, ditching armor makes him 2fast4u.
The Fool can't be defeated, nobody there can actually put it down unless they attack Iggy, but The Fool has shit like shields, shapeshifting (hell it could even shapeshift into like Jotaro, lure in an attack given they'd figure out fast Jotaro is the main issue, and then kill off the attacker) or Iggy himself, etc.
Magician's just overall solid as **** with AOE and fire manip, probably the anti-Sex Pistols and Aerosmith dude here in the same vain he was anti Mariah and anti Hol Horse.


GE is good but he'd HAVE to use his hax, because he's gonna the shit beat out of him in a direct confrontation, he needs to use attack deflection or stay back and just heal. If he engages Plat or someone, he's dead.
SF does better and he also has good hax, he's not as fast or strong but at least he isn't getting one shot (probably). And his ability is good to outrange using extendo arms but if he engages Plat, he dies. Also MR probably defeats soundly, MR has that AOE and range, he can outrange while making use of fire hax to burn SF, CFHS to attack from multiple directions, and more, while staying safe from SF's zipper kill hax. SF would probably do best against Chariot oddly, but even then he's physically not quite up to it but his instant kill zip hax can mitigate that if he like lands a head punch, it's just something he'd be hard pressed to do before he himself gets skewered.
Trish is buff but she's like 2m range, meaning she's gonna be forced to **** with the power types, MR outranges, Plat does Plat stuff, Chariot against is the best bet but as with Bruno, have fun defeating him before you get a sword up your ass.
idk why abbacchio is even here
idk why fugo is even here, like, unless he decides to suicide bomb himself and take out half the crusaders, but he wont. His virus having 5m aoe, while PH having 5m range makes him using the virus dangerous for himself unless he spams capsule launch, but still, only 6 uses a day, in a open colo, bad match up, sunlight would kill it quickly unless he catches someone under the arches or something.
Mista oddly enough might be one of the best here, he could maybe try and snipe the users, Sex Pisstols have good range obviously, and can snipe from like a hundred meters, he could maybe try taking out the Stands via taking out the host, though, this won't work on Plat, Plat is too keen and fast, he'd pick up on the bullet coming and rip whatever pistol is on it in half, sniping someone like Abdul from behind or whoever else would be optimal.
Aerosmith is kinda the same except, super ******* obvious, so it's not taking anyone out by surprise, it's attacks slow so they can be deflected by anyone there (meaning Pol is safe, he can deflect the bullets, Abdul can vaporize the bullets, Plat can deflect, HG would just go lol and shoot his ass back, Joseph would just dodge, Iggy would make a shield), Aero would have to take someone else while they literally cant defend. He's like HG but worse in every way except he was sonar which is useful not at all in this match.

Tbh Mista is honestly the most useful dude here which is ******* astounding, everyone else probably gets their head caved in by Plat because 4 of them being power types against the group that is literally unga bunga the group is a bad matchup, of course if given the chance Sticky could kill anyone, just use a zip and lop their head off, but in that same vain nothing is stopping Plat from lopping his head off with a giant fist to the face, or Chariot with a sword through the throat, or Abdul by just playing it safe and using flames and shit, and HG would just splash spam from a distance, and he can't even do anything to The Fool.
GE is also great, he's versatile, has healing, and more but in a direct fight, his only means of winning here would be attack reflection or maybe the sense punch, but he's getting torn apart 90% of the time first. Trish is the same but better off, unfortunately her hax doesn't allow instant kills or instant incaps so she's getting donutted by Plat or someone even if in theory she should be the best off.
Everyone else is just like whatever, **** Moody Blues even, he's actively detrimental.

If we using zom bruno tho that might change things, like if he fought Chariot, and Chariot stabbed him, but because bruno is undead he could maybe retaliate back with a lethal zipper placement catching them off guard and taking him out, or so on, so zo Bruno would probably be the saving grace but I still dont see that working on Jotaro who could probably time stop in that split moment and finish him off for good kinda like how he stopped time to save Josuke against the el ratto.

What van the crusaders to against giorno damage tranfell? If theye try to hit him or something he just need a frog in his pocket to protect him
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Just not hit the animal? Tbh I don't think any would anyway, why hit the frog or whatever when the enemy is the human/Stand and it looks to be just a normal animal? Most of the crusaders aren't assholes like that, probably wouldn't smite a bird from existence, maybe just smack it out of the way or something.

Mista and narancia bassically have the most range here, only lossing to Kakyoin It self, but the nature of mista stand make him bassicaly immune to smerald splash
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Not even close, Narancia despite his good range, can't do much with it, Abdul melts the bullets coming toward him, Plat laughs, Chariot deflects, etc. And they're all gonna be close to the main bodies to protect them too. Sex Pistols is oddly useful here but he can't deflect Emerald Splash, Sex Pistols lacks the AP to overcome Emerald Splash's Kinetic Energy to redirect it, if they try they'd probably lose a leg.

In meele fight, Stick fingers can disable jotaro and polnarefe If It land one hit into the stands, also the self zippering habilit is incredable to dodge atacks
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This is true, but you gotta remember, he has to actually land a hit first, and it needs to be in a crucial spot like the neck. This isn't happening to Jotaro, despite not being canon, EOH actually does show what a SF vs Plat fight would look like, Plat giving SF a love tap is enough to scare him off. This is important, because this is exactly what would happen in an actual exchange. He might have better luck against Chariot, and might actually be able to do so if he makes use of his undead status, but it'd still be difficult.

Last, they have a healer in Giorno, so if any one suffer a lethal injure, giorno can recover them
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This is true, but this also has to have Gio not be on his own ass to do so, he also needs contact with the allies, this might be hard if HG or MR or someone camps the downed foes.

Hell, not to mention they have a lot more combination atacks, like giorno using his power in mista bullets, now he can trow his animals and plants all around the battlefield, Trish using Spice girls to make jotaro bassically useles here in combat sinse he can't destroy rubber by punching It
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If we're going combo attacks then the Crusaders have even more going for him. Though throwing animals and plats around aren't exactly a huge issue, unless you think Plat is just gonna start ripping them apart. Spice Girl gets throttled, he doesn't need to destroy rubber, he just needs to destroy her, which he can and would. Also I'd bet like 50$ he actually could destroy it by punching it, or at least tearing it, we know it's not 100% indestructible, we see a amped Sex Pistols tear through it, of course it used piercing damage, that of course doesn't help as Plat is gonna mitigate that disadvantage via the fact he's like a million times stronger than Sex Pistols, and has Star Finger, which also pierces.

tbh part 5 gang just has a bad matchup, half being power types means they have to fight Power Types; The Group who outclass them in every category, and they do have long range dudes, but Part 3 group has the LITERAL MAIN LONG range stand that defines it in HG who has a powerful danmaku AOE long range attack and stupid range himself that outclasses everyone here tens of times over. And Fugo is just unfortunate, Araki did his ass dirty, if it was Feedback Fugo or GioGio 2 Fugo things would be very different.
 
I have my money on the crusaders.
The Crusaders as a team is versatile as heck, a dude can manip fire, a dude can do sand shit, a dude has long-ranged emerald splashes, one guy has hamon I guess, one fast knight, and one lightning bruiser.
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In meele fight, Stick fingers can disable jotaro and polnarefe If It land one hit into the stands, also the self zippering habilit is incredable to dodge atacks
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I don't see Speed Equalized here, Star Platinum destroys Sticky Fingers before the dude even has the thought of disabling Jotaro with his zippers. Honestly, in a Melee fight, Bruno's Gang does not stand a chance, no way in hell they are gonna compete with the likes of Star Platinum, Silver Chariot, and Magician's Red.
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Mista and narancia bassically have the most range here, only lossing to Kakyoin It self, but the nature of mista stand make him bassicaly immune to smerald splash
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Jotaro and Polnareff easily deflect what Narancia or Mista will ever shoot out. If Jotaro's Star Platinum throws a rock at Narancia it's over, I haven't seen Mista's Sex Pistols deflect something as big as Chariot's Rapier if he ever does go with shooting it.
I'm pretty sure Avdol can take on Mista, he will literally melt Sex Pistols or Mista's bullets with a single crossfire hurricane.
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Hell, not to mention they have a lot more combination atacks, like giorno using his power in mista bullets, now he can trow his animals and plants all around the battlefield, Trish using Spice girls to make jotaro bassically useles here in combat sinse he can't destroy rubber by punching It
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I mean, the crusaders still know each other very well so they can probably do some combination combos as well.

The only thing the crusaders will worry about is Fugo's virus but Bruno's gang will also worry about it anyway.
Plus the crusaders' mobility is really good? Somewhat. Joseph and Kakyoin can swing around like Spider-Man while Jotaro leaps very high.
 
Literally what's stopping Purple Hazed from getting ranged stomped by the likes of HG and MR?

Plus SP and SC would beat the living daylights out of Purple haze before the purple haze even reacts
 
Nothing, sucks too because >zero speed scaling.
He'd get blitzed too, by literally ANYONE here, he doesn't even scale to Aerosmith, he's in a scaling chain with MOODY BLUES of all ******* Stands, and Moody is like, explicitly so bad in a fight that he's considered helpless against 99% of Stands.
Tbh Fugo needs a GioGio 2 key, it's borderline canon and actually gives him shit to work with, in canon there's way to little going for him to do anything much.
 
I wish the crusaders page used this render instead of the render we have rn, it looks cooler imo
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