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Staff Discussion rules

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@Deagonx again that just sounds like the two members arguing back and forth need to make a summary of their points and let the staff decide, simple as that. If they don’t add anything extra to the table you might as well finish the discussion.
 
Yeah thats the idea. I think my approach above is the best way to enforce that effectively, IMO
 
IdiosyncraticLawyer said:
Can they be applied now?
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I think that the current rules seem fine, except for that "except for Admins" should probably be replaced with "except for Bureaucrats" to set some strict safeguards in place.
 
Thank you. I personally think that it seems sufficiently good to apply now.
 
No problem! The page "Discussion Rules" needs to be unlocked. So I can apply the changes
 
It seems best to wait a bit for further staff input first.
 
Antvasima said:
I think that the current rules seem fine, except for that "except for Admins" should probably be replaced with "except for Bureaucrats" to set some strict safeguards in place.
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I reworded the proposal a bit to make it more streamlined.
  • Only staff members and regular members staff have deemed highly trustworthy may participate in Staff Discussion threads unless an explicit exception is noted.
  • Only staff members with evaluation rights can authorize regular members to participate in Staff Discussion threads. Thread Moderators and Administrators can only grant permission for a single post at a time; only Bureaucrats have the discretion to grant permission for indefinite posting rights. If a staff member determines that a regular member has misused their granted privileges, another staff member can remove them.
  • Regular members may not comment on Staff Discussion threads marked as "Restricted solely for staff members" under any circumstances, as such discussions cover sensitive wiki policy issues and other similar crucial matters that require great caution.
  • In controversial Staff Discussion threads that must avoid spam and unconstructive bickering, regular members are only allowed one highly relevant post each to prevent thread spamming/hijacking. Only Bureaucrats may make exceptions to this rule, which should only happen when they deem the user's expertise/information essential.
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That looks good to me. Thank you. 🙏🙂
 
Aye, the above seems like a good set of compromises to my gripes with the initial proposal. I approve.
 
Thank you for helping out. 🙏
 
I think that is likely sufficient input to apply the change in question.

So where in our Discussion Rules page should we place the following text?
  • Only staff members and regular members staff have deemed highly trustworthy may participate in Staff Discussion threads unless an explicit exception is noted.
  • Only staff members with evaluation rights can authorize regular members to participate in Staff Discussion threads. Thread Moderators and Administrators can only grant permission for a single post at a time; only Bureaucrats have the discretion to grant permission for indefinite posting rights. If a staff member determines that a regular member has misused their granted privileges, another staff member can remove them.
  • Regular members may not comment on Staff Discussion threads marked as "Restricted solely for staff members" under any circumstances, as such discussions cover sensitive wiki policy issues and other similar crucial matters that require great caution.
  • In controversial Staff Discussion threads that must avoid spam and unconstructive bickering, regular members are only allowed one highly relevant post each to prevent thread spamming/hijacking. Only Bureaucrats may make exceptions to this rule, which should only happen when they deem the user's expertise/information essential.
 
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