I think he maybe didn't noticed the comment, as the wiki usually don't notify others of new comments if they aren't directly mentioned, could you ping him to see this please?
@Nullflowerblush See above. I left a comment on your blog.
Wow, I might be stupid. I missed the part of the blog that detailed the centripetal formula in use, which would mean the result doesn't need to be halved.
The entire arm length (/0,590758587) as the radius or half the arm length (/0.2953792935)?
Entire arm length. That's the distance from the center point of the rotation, so.
Done.
As mentioned in the original calc, it was decided in a thread to use that speed and various staff gave their approval, but basically in short it was because Fiona canonically can swing to the speed of sound normally and because at the moment of the feat she was depicted as swinging the boulder fast instead of slowly, hence why was considered as fine to use the average swing speed of tennis players as reference.
Fiona scales to the speed of sound swinging with a normal racket, assuming the racket Fiona used weighs the same as an average racket (0.3 Kg), Fiona swinging a 333 kg boulder at 35 m/s would make no sense considering she’d have to be massively superior to Yor to actually swing that fast. The racket has to weigh at least 30 kgs for us to assume that he's swinging the boulder at FTE speeds.
In the same panel where she swing the boulder you can see how there is an afterimage, whicj indicates that it was indeed fast the swing, so using normal tennis swing speed as reference was accepted to be a reasonable speed to use. Staff, including admins and calc members, were fine with that and accepted it, so it will continue to be used until they deem it as not valid.
Anime actually supports the speed used
Could try doing it tomorrow at night after work, though if someone get the speed and acceleration before that would be helpful.
Since when did we start taking the "after images" in manga seriously? They're literally used to show movement, jumping to the assumption that its from speed is unsubstantiated.
They're almost always used to convey either martial arts, or notably quick movement. Vast majority of the time, simple movement is either not conveyed at all, done via motion blur, or speed lines, or arcs.
So?
Is what you said, you did not say SxF, you said manga, as a whole, so I grabbed some examples, from a manga, proving you're inherently wrong. I can grab other examples from different manga. Anything from mecha, romcom, fantasy, etc, take your pick.
I don’t need examples from different mangas with different styles, stop trying to substantiate the claim that it’s speed based by using mangas from completely different authors. It just doesn't make sense.
It's better to use this version imo as the distance she moves and the timeframe is there.
You do realize this boost the results by an order of magnitude
You'e acting like I came here to downgrade the results rather than correcting the calc. This is a verse I don't even follow enough to love or hate lmaoYou do realize this boost the results by an order of magnitude
What's here already in the OPs was a significant lowball, I couldn't post my math cause imgur being silly atm but like it ain't close
Oh? But you asked, and I quote "Since when did we start taking the "after images" in manga seriously? They're literally used to show movement, jumping to the assumption that its from speed is unsubstantiated"
And yes, backpedaling, you asked, you were proven wrong, you're trying to change what you actually asked. Backpedaling.
SxF is a manga first and foremost, the anime at best would only be useful for timeframe
Then why are you arguing out of ignorance?You'e acting like I came here to downgrade the results rather than correcting the calc. This is a verse I don't even follow enough to love or hate lmao
It's normal for her swing here to be slightly slower than average racket swings as she's literally swinging a whole boulder, which weighs much more than a normal tennis racket. Also, bringing out the fact that she is a character with "superspeed" is weird as nothing in this scene dictates that she's going fast (she's literally training to face Yor again as far as I know,).
I don't need to have context about the entire verse to argue about a calc of that verse being wrong or right?
I already stated why I'm aganist that above. You could've just read my replies prior...
Until you take into account motion blur, speed lines, afterimage, and so on.
Yeah, note, Yor hard confirmed, stated, and shown, to pitch balls that make sonic booms and exceed sound. Yor's pitches being fast af is why she's training.
No they aren't? That sounds like a personal issue given the boulder is checkered with them. This is a total non-argument, the fact they exist is enough, the fact that actually are quite noticeable is even more.
Irrelevant. In the manga, it's evidently meant to convey high-speed motion. The anime opting not to because it can instead just animate the highspeed action instead, makes sense.
Hmm? Literally nobody said it was FTE, nice try. The argument was it was meant to convey a high-speed jerk motion, which it quite literally, inarguably, does.
You do when it isn't the math or science that's wrong, but rather an assumption based on the verse's and scene's context. Which is exactly what you're arguing about, you aren't going "oh this formula is wrong" or "oh you typo'd", you're going "hmm average human speed is too much lol", the only way you can logically conclude that is if you know the context and narrative in question in which does it make sense in said context? You already admitted you don't, so there's no real debate to be had, you're arguing out of ignorance.
And nobody agrees, average human speed is a lowend not the unfounded high end like you're arguing, context implicates it's quick, the manga panel and art makes it evident it's a quick jerk motion due to afterimage/motion blur/speed lines (like literally all at once), anime corroborates that proving the obvious assumption was in fact obvious.
Well you got the context now, with the Anime scene.
Why are you still here then? You got the context, you know the calc is viable now with the animation. Your concerns have been handled and you can leave now.
