Spongebob Squarepants Discussion Thread

[Pugao_03]

Has anybody ever brought up this feat before?

But a good find, a good explanation for everything being fine later is explained in the comics.
And in other media of course.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Incredibly you can get weight lifting from this since destroying things by jumping from a trampoline requires weight, it must be one of the variations that the characters suffer in the show.
But it should be consistent with the scene of them surviving the destruction of the universe

Considering the way that the feat is presented.... It is very doubtful to say the minimum

In the SpongeBob comics, I ended up reading them all and incredibly they have the quality of the old show

But in context, the squid begins to elevate its mind to other planes of existence, like an astral projection.
So he ends up making some interesting quotes

Yes, but, in which comic?

I also read a big part of the comics, yes, they are pretty good

Also.... The scans from your last post freaking died

 

[Pugao_03]

In fact, there is a feat in his intelligence profile.
"Squidward mentions that he remembers everything, everything that ever happened and even things that never happened, maybe even things that will happen... Things that will never happen, if he remembers that they happen"
So... I saw the episode and it doesn't seem like something extraordinary genius.

Incredibly, remembering practically everything is even greater, some characters obtain almost omniscience
Besides, he has all of this stored in his brain, but due to variations in intelligence (Something that even Patrick already recognized in the wishing well episode) he doesn't have such high intelligence all the time

In addition to explaining why all the crazy things that SpongeBob thinks are real become real, in the episode he uses this to change the historical past of his city and the present.

A mix of subjective reality, cosmic consciousness and manipulation of causality.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

In fact, there is a feat in his intelligence profile.
"Squidward mentions that he remembers everything, everything that ever happened and even things that never happened, maybe even things that will happen... Things that will never happen, if he remembers that they happen"
So... I saw the episode and it doesn't seem like something extraordinary genius.

Incredibly, remembering practically everything is even greater, some characters obtain almost omniscience
Besides, he has all of this stored in his brain, but due to variations in intelligence (Something that even Patrick already recognized in the wishing well episode) he doesn't have such high intelligence all the time

In addition to explaining why all the crazy things that SpongeBob thinks are real become real, in the episode he uses this to change the historical past of his city and the present.

A mix of subjective reality, cosmic consciousness and manipulation of causality.

I think it was put on his intelligence section to show the amount of knowledge he carries with him (What helps showing how smart he is)

But i don´t think the statement should be taken literally, not only it was made by an almost insane Squidward but he doesn´t knows how far SpongeBob´s knowledge goes (It was also showed as a way to the episode to describe SpongeBob´s great memory)

But Cosmic Awareness and a limited version of Causality manipulation should work

 

[Pugao_03]

Considering the way that the feat is presented.... It is very doubtful to say the minimum

The new episodes are full of weird things like that, but yeah normally on trampolines the impact is caused by a mixture of fallen height and weight.

Yes, but, in which comic?

I also read a big part of the comics, yes, they are pretty good

Also.... The scans from your last post freaking died

I'll send it when I gather the things I have here.

But Cool, so you must know a lot about comics.

And I'll fix the links to the last post

 

[Pugao_03]

I think it was put on his intelligence section to show the amount of knowledge he carries with him (What helps showing how smart he is)

But i don´t think the statement should be taken literally, not only it was made by an almost insane Squidward but he doesn´t knows how far SpongeBob´s knowledge goes (It was also showed as a way to the episode to describe SpongeBob´s great memory(

But Cosmic Awareness and a limited version of Causality manipulation should work

Although it seems like he is crazy is implied in the episode that it is literal, later in the episode we see that he actually remembers everything when he regains his memories.
Because he literally sees SpongeBob showing that he remembers everything and altering reality by simply remembering something that never happened.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

The new episodes are full of weird things like that, but yeah normally on trampolines the impact is caused by a mixture of fallen height and weight.

Yeah but you can´t really say to me that what Patrick did completely followed the laws of physics

I'll send it when I gather the things I have here.

But Cool, so you must know a lot about comics.

Gladly i do, if anyone doesn´t likes the new seasons the comics are a great recommendation

Although it seems like he is crazy is implied in the episode that it is literal, later in the episode we see that he actually remembers everything when he regains his memories.

This would fall under the "Have a great memory" part of my post

Because he literally sees SpongeBob showing that he remembers everything and altering reality by simply remembering something that never happened.

Pretty sure this ins´t showed, SpongeBob just regain his memories, some flashbacks of past episodes happens, and everything gets back to normal

 

[Pugao_03]

I'm still figuring this out, however, in the middle of it, I found a few things that explain why everything is so strange in the show, basically in the "real world" the writers change SpongeBob's stories to look for new artistic visions of the same story, so Because of this, bizarre stories emerged such as Mr Krabs being a dictator, Squidward going to the future only to see that Krusty Krab still exists, etc., so much so that in an official tweet one of the writers mentions that "Bikini bottom" is a nebulous place that is always changing, because of this certain inconsistencies happen (Well, honestly, apart from SpongeBob's non-existent driver's license, there is a guide who says that Patrick is almost 2 meters tall and Nick says that Plankton is around centimeters tall, lol.), other things found were that the characters apparently work to make a story happen, this was shown in the "Krusty Krab orientation video" and every time the characters are aware that After "11 minutes" the episode will end and everyone will go home.
or also in those comic panels where SpongeBob instructs Patrick to start the story with the first panel, this in addition to Patchy saying that SpongeBob is a star in the "real world" with him knowing that
Something that supports this further is the friendversary itself, where SpongeBob remembers everything he and Squidward did together, which includes episodes in which supposedly it wasn't even them

And a funny thing, SpongeBob has access to "Popeye's" spinach (A parody of him)

Solved, except the "Popeye" one I'll send later, otherwise the scriptwriters one is in the first comics and is very easy to find.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Solved, except the "Popeye" one I'll send later, otherwise the scriptwriters one is in the first comics and is very easy to find.

I saved the twitter and comics statement

The characters being "actors" doesn´t really makes sense to me, since the biggest part of them are just fourth wall breaks (SpongeBob Comics #28 also shows that the events that happen to the characters are very real)

SpongeBob having some godly cosmic awareness regarding the show, makes sense, though

 

[Pugao_03]

Yeah but you can´t really say to me that what Patrick did completely followed the laws of physics


This would fall under the "Have a great memory" part of my post

Not at all, however it still respects the formulas we use to calculate destruction.
Like mass and speed, as long as his fall did not exceed the speed of light, it is possible to calculate. And I think that bending the entire universe through your weight to the point of making it collapse is not necessary physical manipulation, It's more like a form of density manipulation since he can control his mass at the moment of impact of course

And having memory about literally everything means remembering everything, which can fall as experience which falls as intelligence.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Not at all, however it still respects the formulas we use to calculate destruction.
Like mass and speed, as long as his fall did not exceed the speed of light, it is possible to calculate. And I think that bending the entire universe through your weight to the point of making it collapse is not necessary physical manipulation, It's more like a form of density manipulation since he can control his mass at the moment of impact of course

The way it happens looks unrealistic, though

And having memory about literally everything means remembering everything, which can fall as experience which falls as intelligence.

I didn´t argue it was a direct feat of intelligence

 

[Pugao_03]

I saved the twitter and comics statement

The characters being "actors" doesn´t really makes sense to me, since the biggest part of them are just fourth wall breaks (SpongeBob Comics #28 also shows that the events that happen to the characters are very real)

SpongeBob having some godly cosmic awareness regarding the show, makes sense, though

Yes, the events that happen to the characters are real, however they only act a certain way during the stories to please the audience, but being aware of it.
Since, as said by squidward, his suffering lasts 11 minutes and at another point it is shown that humans, in order to transmit the show to the "real world", begin to record him from within the show.
(In the episode where SpongeBob ends up crashing his boat into the French narrator)

Basically the characters live their lives normally, however when the show starts and they know it they take on their roles while the writers throw trouble in their paths.
So to please the public they have to act accordingly

 

[Pugao_03]

The way it happens looks unrealistic, though


I didn´t argue it was a direct feat of intelligence

I think any destruction of the universe caused by the weight of a starfish is unrealistic XD But I understand what you mean.

Ok, What intelligence could it be? Some of the things he seemed to remember occurred in thoughts in the episode, it could yield a very broken intelligence.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Yes, the events that happen to the characters are real, however they only act a certain way during the stories to please the audience, but being aware of it.
Since, as said by squidward, his suffering lasts 11 minutes and at another point it is shown that humans, in order to transmit the show to the "real world", begin to record him from within the show.
(In the episode where SpongeBob ends up crashing his boat into the French narrator)

Basically the characters live their lives normally, however when the show starts and they know it they take on their roles while the writers throw trouble in their paths.
So to please the public they have to act accordingly

I don´t see how that´s anything beyond Fourth Wall Awareness tbh

Ok, What intelligence could it be? Some of the things he seemed to remember occurred in thoughts in the episode, it could yield a very broken intelligence.

I honestly don´t think it is any level of Intelligence but rather an incredible type of Cosmic Awareness. He already showed to know about things that happened in other time periods, so him having knowledge of things that happened while he wasn´t looking ins´t too much of a stretch

 

[Pugao_03]

I don´t see how that´s anything beyond Fourth Wall Awareness tbh

Considering the consistency in which it was mentioned, the episode where they decided to record a video explaining the characters' history, SpongeBob helping Patrick in a comic book panel to find the beginning of the story, the "real" world being a thing and practically all the characters having this consciousness (like Beard Burger), Patchy mentioning that he invited SpongeBob to an all-star show, SpongeBob recognizing Patchy as the leader of his fan club, along with others singing the opening.
Apart from the times when the French narrator starts recording the show (as he officially records the show), when the characters notice this on several occasions they notice that they are being recorded.
With all these things and the Squidward quotes about the nature of the show it really seems to indicate something else.

Something that could also support this is at the end of SpongeBob's birthday episode, All the characters, due to the plot of an episode, end up causing confusion and this causes them to get tired and end up sleeping. (Remembering that all the characters are aware that they are in a show, as shown in a sponge out of water, Secondary characters recognize their role as secondary characters, Even Beard Burger and the seagulls know this, With Beard Burger knowing they are in a movie), Each character knows their role in the show and obviously knows who the protagonist is.

However, when they finish the episode, they end up getting up to sing the opening without any problems.

 

[Pugao_03]

I honestly don´t think it is any level of Intelligence but rather an incredible type of Cosmic Awareness. He already showed to know about things that happened in other time periods, so him having knowledge of things that happened while he wasn´t looking ins´t too much of a stretch

Incredibly it can be both, there are characters who gain intelligence through cosmic consciousness depending on how it works.
His is basically because he remembers literally "everything" and can change it if he remembers something different.

If you have memory/information in your head of everything that has ever happened, will happen, it means you have knowledge, if you have knowledge you gain intelligence, very simple.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Considering the consistency in which it was mentioned, the episode where they decided to record a video explaining the characters' history, SpongeBob helping Patrick in a comic book panel to find the beginning of the story, the "real" world being a thing and practically all the characters having this consciousness (like Beard Burger), Patchy mentioning that he invited SpongeBob to an all-star show, SpongeBob recognizing Patchy as the leader of his fan club, along with others singing the opening.
Apart from the times when the French narrator starts recording the show (as he officially records the show), when the characters notice this on several occasions they notice that they are being recorded.
With all these things and the Squidward quotes about the nature of the show it really seems to indicate something else.

Something that could also support this is at the end of SpongeBob's birthday episode, All the characters, due to the plot of an episode, end up causing confusion and this causes them to get tired and end up sleeping. (Remembering that all the characters are aware that they are in a show, as shown in a sponge out of water, Secondary characters recognize their role as secondary characters, Even Beard Burger and the seagulls know this, With Beard Burger knowing they are in a movie), Each character knows their role in the show and obviously knows who the protagonist is.

However, when they finish the episode, they end up getting up to sing the opening without any problems.

Yes, they are aware of the Fourth Wall and that their "World" is a fictional story, but i don´t see why they would be acting, none of the evidence appoints to that

Incredibly it can be both, there are characters who gain intelligence through cosmic consciousness depending on how it works.
His is basically because he remembers literally "everything" and can change it if he remembers something different.

If you have memory/information in your head of everything that has ever happened, will happen, it means you have knowledge, if you have knowledge you gain intelligence, very simple.

I was arguing that some posts above

 

[Pugao_03]

Yes, they are aware of the Fourth Wall and that their "World" is a fictional story, but i don´t see why they would be acting, none of the evidence appoints to that


I was arguing that some posts above

Quite simply, because they are aware of their reality and that they are a show, for it to continue and continue living normally, they in return act to "please the fans"
Like real actors

An example happens in "Truth or Square", Patchy tells us that there were tests for who would star in the show, Some of the nominees were Patrick Star, Squidward and even Mr Krabs.

However, they saw that the best idea would be SpongeBob, in the first version of the cartoon the world created was even black and white, but it was discarded.

So there really is evidence to support this idea.

If the cartoon ends up in the "real world" they practically lose their world

 

[Pugao_03]

I was arguing that some posts above

Well, we can use the profile of someone similar as an example of what it could be, perhaps Dr Manhattan's since the description is of him seeing all moments in time at the same time
SpongeBob sees things the same way
(It fell as cosmic consciousness, but it is in intelligence)

 

[Pugao_03]

hey, I came back with something, a friend of mine calculated a feat of his moving the Earth with one hand and the result was surprising

Apparently moving a planet very quickly can yield a very high result.

But of course, in addition to an evaluation, it would need to be sent to a blog.

Spoiler: The calculation

Knowing that the moment of inertia is: 9.736×10^37 kgm² (https://socratic.org/questions/58a289437c014903532c7ce7)

We would have to calculate the torque of turning 180º (which is 3.14159 Radiants or pi) something with this inertia.

The raw energy can now be calculated as Dwarf Star

But the force still has to be calculated from the acceleration

The earth's angular velocity is 0.00007292115 rad/s, as it takes 24 hours to make one complete revolution.

He slowed this speed down, and added 3.1415 radiants in 2 seconds, giving an acceleration of 1.5708 rad/s^2

This gives a torque of 1.52933088e+38 Newtons/Metro

Transforming this into force, we have F = t/r

t = Torque

r = Radius of the Earth

F = 1.52933088e+38 / 6371000 = 2.40045657e31 Newtons or 2.447784482E+27 Tons (Stellar)

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

hey, I came back with something, a friend of mine calculated a feat of his moving the Earth with one hand and the result was surprising

Apparently moving a planet very quickly can yield a very high result.

But of course, in addition to an evaluation, it would need to be sent to a blog.

Spoiler: The calculation

Knowing that the moment of inertia is: 9.736×10^37 kgm² (https://socratic.org/questions/58a289437c014903532c7ce7)

We would have to calculate the torque of turning 180º (which is 3.14159 Radiants or pi) something with this inertia.

The raw energy can now be calculated as Dwarf Star

But the force still has to be calculated from the acceleration

The earth's angular velocity is 0.00007292115 rad/s, as it takes 24 hours to make one complete revolution.

He slowed this speed down, and added 3.1415 radiants in 2 seconds, giving an acceleration of 1.5708 rad/s^2

This gives a torque of 1.52933088e+38 Newtons/Metro

Transforming this into force, we have F = t/r

t = Torque

r = Radius of the Earth

F = 1.52933088e+38 / 6371000 = 2.40045657e31 Newtons or 2.447784482E+27 Tons (Stellar)

Spongebob turns the planet upside down (calc)

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This was already calculated

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Well, we can use the profile of someone similar as an example of what it could be, perhaps Dr Manhattan's since the description is of him seeing all moments in time at the same time
SpongeBob sees things the same way
(It fell as cosmic consciousness, but it is in intelligence)

Dr Manhattan has a whole lore about he being a Nigh-Omnisicient being, you would need far more proof to give SpongeBob such a level of Intelligence

 

[Pugao_03]

Dr Manhattan has a whole lore about he being a Nigh-Omnisicient being, you would need far more proof to give SpongeBob such a level of Intelligence

Yes, but the reason he still has it is because he is able to see the past, present and future.
The same for people like alien X who recreated the universe in detail and therefore has almost omniscience

SpongeBob has all the information from the show in his head by remembering everything.
If not, in the worst case scenario it could be super genius or even extraordinary genius, as I've seen Ant saying that having an infinite amount of information would be super genius.

However, remembering everything would be something similar to Manhattan and alien X.
There is also the anti spiral for knowing almost everything about cosmology.

 

[Pugao_03]

Spongebob turns the planet upside down (calc)

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This was already calculated

Cool, it came to the same result, but it was pretty obvious that it would be above class Y.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Yes, but the reason he still has it is because he is able to see the past, present and future.
The same for people like alien X who recreated the universe in detail and therefore has almost omniscience

SpongeBob has all the information from the show in his head by remembering everything.
If not, in the worst case scenario it could be super genius or even extraordinary genius, as I've seen Ant saying that having an infinite amount of information would be super genius.

However, remembering everything would be something similar to Manhattan and alien X.
There is also the anti spiral for knowing almost everything about cosmology.

Having knowledge of everything that ever happened on the show ≠ Have knowledge on everything that ever happened on the entire universe

Also, the show ins't infinite, so no Supergenius rating

 

[Pugao_03]

Having knowledge of everything that ever happened on the show ≠ Have knowledge on everything that ever happened on the entire universe

Also, the show ins't infinite, so no Supergenius rating

Having knowledge of the entire past, present and future to the point that in Friendversary shows that in his head the universe is present in his memories.
Since this knowledge extends to other timelines, the range is definitely at least low multiversal

This covers the universe and its timeline very well.
In fact, infinity would come from the timeline itself, each moment of time represents a moment in the universe. (The timeline contains an infinite number of moments in the universe)
And in his memories he remembers when he spent an eternity working with Squidward and according to him he even remembers things that "haven't happened yet".
As the Squidward quote is supported by SpongeBob himself in the episode, then... Yeap, remembering literally everything at the very least is super genius.

Although knowing about everything in his universe and others with him arriving in the "real world", it must be almost omniscience.
Alien X, when it was 2-C low, had this intelligence for having created the universe in its smallest details.
And yes, this comparison is fair here, as it fell as intelligence because he remembers every thing in the timeline.

 

[Pugao_03]

Having knowledge of the entire past, present and future to the point that in Friendversary shows that in his head the universe is present in his memories.
Since this knowledge extends to other timelines, the range is definitely at least low multiversal

This covers the universe and its timeline very well.
In fact, infinity would come from the timeline itself, each moment of time represents a moment in the universe. (The timeline contains an infinite number of moments in the universe)
And in his memories he remembers when he spent an eternity working with Squidward and according to him he even remembers things that "haven't happened yet".
As the Squidward quote is supported by SpongeBob himself in the episode, then... Yeap, remembering literally everything at the very least is super genius.

Although knowing about everything in his universe and others with him arriving in the "real world", it must be almost omniscience.
Alien X, when it was 2-C low, had this intelligence for having created the universe in its smallest details.
And yes, this comparison is fair here, as it fell as intelligence because he remembers every thing in the timeline.

And of course, as shown, SpongeBob's awareness of remembering everything is not limited to him.

 

[Pugao_03]

It's a good idea to write down some things involving weightlifting, if you have ideas of things to write down like AP, speed or skills you can talk about them too.

Spoiler: Some things to note

SpongeBob lifting a large part of the ocean, In the comics there is also a monster that stole the entire ocean
A Although the characters stole equipment and broke the pot containing all this water and returned it to the ocean, the characters were not affected by masses of water pushing them.
This while water spread across the entire planet in moments

Patrick destroying the universe by jumping from a tiny height through its density (an interesting fact is that a huge mass of energy responsible for creating the universe could do the same)
maybe the scene of him creating a parallel universe physically off-screen with materials, but I have doubts about that.

SpongeBob moving the Earth with one hand quickly, Sometimes.
With values reaching stellar

Him supporting the recoil of Santa Claus's gift box that ended up destroying the moon (incredibly because he holds and withstands the recoil it is possible to know the newtons)

There is also the French narrator whose physical body is a dimension full of stars, but he has to use equipment to interact with the world, However, knowing whether this could turn into weightlifting is difficult to say.

And bubbles wearing the fabric of space time.

 

[Imaginym]

Big new game for the franchise announced. Will it be valid for cross-scaling to the main series?

 

[GoCommitDi]

Yeah it should be

I hope they remaster the movie game someday

 

[Imaginym]

Yeah it should be

I hope they remaster the movie game someday

That could be interesting. I wonder if it'll add anything.

 

[coolgohan09]

double posting but rechecking throughout the thread it seems you guys mentioned gathering new info and reading a chunk of the comics. And did you guys forget about how SpongeBob erased the concept of thought and evolved to regen from it, and squidward erased the concept with a pencil.

 

[Psychomaster35]

@Pugao_03 @Accelerated_Evolution Sorry to tag you guys and double posting but rechecking throughout the thread it seems you guys mentioned gathering new info and reading a chunk of the comics. And did you guys forget about how SpongeBob erased the concept of thought and evolved to regen from it, and squidward erased the concept with a pencil.

Regular members can't ping other users, only staff can do that

 

[coolgohan09]

Regular members can't ping other users, only staff can do that

Oh okay! I am sorry for doing that.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Regular members can't ping other users, only staff can do that

Sorry to bother you, but I have a question. Isn't the statement about SpongeBob not having a canon more o less just stating that the show doesn't have a set timeline of events rather than not having a canon , which has way crazier implications ?

 

[coolgohan09]

Sorry to bother you, but I have a question. Isn't the statement about SpongeBob not having a canon more o less just stating that the show doesn't have a set timeline of events rather than not having a canon , which has way crazier implications ?

Basically writers dont care about some big canon timeline something like Gravity falls any media official is canon because it gets referenced in episodes and its never mentioned in spongebob if this is non cannon. Well the shows and games/comics are all 1000% cannon but who knows the timeline

 

[coolgohan09]

bump also what do you guys think about this

Spongebob Downgrade

Now, I'm not automatically going to downgrade Spongebob back to Below Average, just because of inconsistent gag feats, but I do feel like a lot of abilities Spongebob was given included information that either was taken out of context or wasn't very viable. For example: Could see what Frenchy...

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[Psychomaster35]

bump also what do you guys think about this

Spongebob Downgrade

Now, I'm not automatically going to downgrade Spongebob back to Below Average, just because of inconsistent gag feats, but I do feel like a lot of abilities Spongebob was given included information that either was taken out of context or wasn't very viable. For example: Could see what Frenchy...

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Wasn't that already applied?

 

[coolgohan09]

Wasn't that already applied?

Yeah i know but i mentioned this to see if they agreed with the downgrades for spongebob's abilities .