Spiderman vs Geralt of Rivia

[Apollodoro055]

I want to be kind, and I'll give to Geralt just 6/10 just because Peter here have a powerful armor, if he was in his standard suit this would ended in almost a stomp for Peter, quite frankly.

So, I mentioned how Geralt have more countermeasures unlike Peter, and Peter can't do nothing about that. Having more countermeasures is above any speculation or assumption, so it's a real factor to bring in a serious debate.

So, my vote is for Geralt.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Sorry, I didn't say anything about potions yet and what do you mean by "camp"? (Limited vocabulary aaaaa)

It means Spider-Man can play the waiting game,which is completely reasonable in character. There are literally entire issues that has Spidey completely running away from people until he can deal with them.

 

[ShakeResounding]

So, I mentioned how Geralt have more countermeasures unlike Peter, and Peter can't do nothing about that. Having more countermeasures is above any speculation or assumption, so it's a real factor to bring in a serious debate.

Two words, one hyphen.

Spider-Sense.

 

[Apollodoro055]

Two words, one hyphen.

Spider-Sense.

Two words: blizzard potion and Yrden. Sorry.

 

[The_Impress]

Two words: dodged and forseen.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Not to mention Spider-Man no-sells low level Poison Manipulation and anything that tries to hit Spidey is literally not touching him

 

[M3X_2.0]

Jokes aside, no, Geralt being an expert swordsman changes little to nothing about this encounter. Try being in a room of people filled with submachine guns at you, then we can talk.

Different cases, different abilities required to deal. Geralt is greatest swordsman of the North, Whirl wouldn't let Peter get close, if so, he loses an arm or a leg.

Geralt swings his sword, Spider-Man dodges, and then proceeds to rip the sword out of his hands because of superior Lifting Strength, and proceeds to pummel him.

A completely no given Aaed exist. It doesn't matter if he has a superior LS when Geralt has AP advantage. Aard will not let Peter do whatever he want to do with pure LS. It can stun enemies stronger than Geralt (enemie > Geralt > Peter) and freeze them.

Being good with a sword doesn't mean anything when you're fighting somebody with a sixth sense working in five different ways at once and having comparable skill to people who are far more impressive than Geralt.

Same goes for Peter. He will be dealing with someone who can hear breathing or heart beating tens of meters away. Spider Sense isn't something constant, as I've said before. Using this as an argument is a bit iffy tho.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Sorry, I didn't say anything about potions yet and what do you mean by "camp"? (Limited vocabulary aaaaa)

It means Spider-Man can play the waiting game,which is completely reasonable in character. There are literally entire issues that has Spidey completely running away from people until he can deal with them.

Oh, ir wouldn't work. Waiting for the potion end, and then comeback. Geralt used it again. No worries

 

[DarkGrath]

Two words: This thread is getting out of hand.

wait that's seven

 

[M3X_2.0]

Two words: dodged and forseen.

He will not be able to dodge omnidirecional Aard (during a close combat) and can't get close to Geralt given Yrden.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Well no one got angry because of the thread so it is good I think

 

[Apollodoro055]

I think you people really don't want to understand that Yrden can slow down and damaging an enemy, is a magical trap, means that just a character with magic immunity can have a countermeasure against Yrden. The Blizzard potion can slow down time significantly (can even slow down enemies with teleport), it's the most direct answer to precog here. Again, Geralt just have more countermeasures than Peter, and Peter can't do nothing about it, and Geralt even have AP advantage.

 

[The_Impress]

Spider-Man regularly fights Taskmaster, which if you don't know who that is, is Ikki 2.0, potrayed at equal stats too. So I swear, unless you wanna argue Geralt outskills ******* Taskmaster, don't bring up H2H.

LS is the factor in taking away stuff, stop making up that AP is a factor there

Spider-Sense is again, extremely consistent unless it's melee, when it has a "death blow only precog"

 

[M3X_2.0]

I want to hear a counter to Ice Manipulation. Geralt can freeze up to 4 people with it, and the biggest monster is a cyclope

 

[The_Impress]

@M3X it's not like Spider-Man doesn't have Ice Manipulation that covered and entire damn skyscraper

 

[M3X_2.0]

LS wouldn't save Peter from Aard. That's not how it works

 

[Apollodoro055]

Note: Not to mention that, unlike spider-sense, blizzard potion is perfectly consistent.

 

[M3X_2.0]

@M3X it's not like Spider-Man doesn't have Ice Manipulation that covered and entire damn skyscraper

He has it like his own abilitie? What about counter it?

 

[ShakeResounding]

The counter is for his Spider-Sense to literally tell him not to do something in his fight

 

[M3X_2.0]

Here is how Aard Piercing Cold works, @Zark.

 

[ShakeResounding]

So it's an attack Spider-Man can dodge, which is his entire gimmick. Nice

 

[M3X_2.0]

No he can't. High level Aard attacks omnidirecionally

 

[The_Impress]

Spider-Sense is consistent, explain why it isn't.

Spider-Man has comparable Ice Manip and boy oh boy, wanna talk about Enhanced Senses? Spider-Man can see 360 view of stuff before they can happen. What do you wanna argue here? Enhanced Sense are better than straight up Precog?

Also no, projectile speed is never ******* Equalized in any matchup ever. We don't go with ******* Athletic Human bullets

 

[ShakeResounding]

That seems so easy for Spidey to dodge it isn't even funny

 

[Apollodoro055]

Nice to see how there isn't any answer about the better Geralt's countermeasures but still pretend to not know them and pretend that Peter can somehow win this. I'm into battles discussion since 2006, and any time there is a Marvel character involved, Spider-Man especially, I see the same thing: poor debate..

 

[M3X_2.0]

@Shake Don't ignore my comments. I said Aard attacks omnidirecionally, and during a close combat he will not be able to dodge given Yrden.

@Zark

I didn't get your comment. Are you talking with me? Because I am not arguing this things besides ice manipulation. And it doesn't matter if Peter has Ice Manip, Geralt resist with Quen. I want to know how would Peter deal

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

No he can't. High level Aard attacks omnidirecionally

However, it requires a bit of a charge, which may leave Geralt open if he didn't Quen first.

Which the weak one can be easily broken, so...

 

[Apollodoro055]

Why Spider-Man win? "Because he can dodge".

Real poor debate. We can close this?

 

[M3X_2.0]

Peter would be slowed down because of Yrden so the time for the charge is ok. And I don't remember the charge, lol. Gonna play today and see if thats the case.

Dome Quen can't be broken that easily. I think you are using game mechanics here, no?

 

[Apollodoro055]

However, it requires a bit of a charge, which may leave Geralt open if he didn't Quen first.

Which the weak one can be easily broken, so...

Don't use game mechanics logic

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

If Geralt is using dome Quen, he can't use the other signs at the same time.

Is not really game mechanics if he hasn't shown the ability to do multiple signs at once.

 

[M3X_2.0]

What I said that was game mech was Quen being broken easily. Don't mess the points

 

[The_Impress]

Ok a few things.

Spider-Man's webs resist flames from Human Torch, Ignis or whatever doesn't work.

Spider-Man can resist Vacuum of space, so **** cold manip, can make barriers to surround himself too, and has acip webs that corrode everything and straight up blow shit up thanks to his explosions. So all in all, Ice Manip is doing jackshit to be frank because Spider-Man escapes that in 70 different ways. Hell it tunnels through entire streets and it's self controlled, so Spider-Man doesn't even have to try it

Mk. 4 Strength Amps Spider-Man to High 8-C+

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

And weak Quen, the one that isn't a dome, does break easily.

And is the Quen he has to do if he wants to do Piercing Cold right then and there.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Dude but no one is using Quen as an argument. You came here and started talking about Quen.

 

[M3X_2.0]

@Zark

Cold manip =/= ice manipulation. He still doesn't resist

 

[ShakeResounding]

Why Spider-Man win? "Because he can dodge".

I mean... Yeah. If Geralt isn't touching him and all of his wincons are things that need to actually hit him, then Spider-Man does indeed win. AOEs aren't a problem when they have piss-poor range that Spider-Man can just as easily avoid. It's not hard to grasp, people.

@Lephyr Good to know.

 

[The_Impress]

He resists frostbite or whatever, and I explain 5 different ways he can break out. Are you purposely missing the point?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I will add, however, that Yrden does mitigates the weakness of charging a bit omnidirectional Piercing Cold.

(I always forget about Yrden; almost never use it in my playthrough ovo)

However, that's 2 scenarious where Geralt "maybe" wins. And that's assuming everything goes smoothly for him (which in-character never does ovo).

 

[M3X_2.0]

The only thing that can possibly work is the barrier. Can you link a scan of it?