Spiderman vs Geralt of Rivia

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Goddamn it Lephyr stop saying the stuff I was about to say
To be fair tho, Spidey's only ever won against people as skilled as Wolvie via sheer strength despite having received training from the likes of Shang-Chi. I mean, there's a massive difference between a 9-A and a High 8-C.

Leph of the crazy reflexes, they call me. ovo

Fair enough on the other point.

 

[The_Impress]

Spider-Man fights evenly with Taskmaster, far more skill feats than Geralt, and Kraven, World's best hunter in a world with beasts and monsters galore and he did so with conventional melee weaponry, and Wolverine, who can match Silver samurai, consistently stated to be the best swordsman in the world, and Scorpio (the Zodiac Key guy who is a master spy) and Morlun (Who wipes out entire goddamn universes of Spider-Folk.)

Also KLOL, when the hell have Spider-Man and Wolverine fought and their tier differences were treated like the tier differences? Everyone can fight everyone in Marvel, so arguing "AP difference" in a story where such AP gap isn't made clear, is irrelevant.

Also like, genuinely, just naming spells without effects is genuinely getting old rn

 

[Apollodoro055]

Taskmaster isn't an high 8-C, with the power to slow down time and enemies, with a low 7-B shield tho

 

[The_Impress]

Also for the 57th time, Mk. 4 is High 8-C+ at the absolute least, so unless Geralt gets thrown into 8-B, there is no significant AP difference.

And no, Peter's Spider-Sense does give him extreme edge in reaction time, read the Perception Manipulation section in his P&A.

 

[The_Impress]

Taskmaster isn't an high 8-C, with the power to slow down time and enemies, with a low 7-B shield tho

In context of the stories he appears with Spider-Man, he is. Unless he literally is stated to be far weaker, we don't assume them to be considering they evenly match each other in physical terms

 

[Apollodoro055]

KLOL said: "Spidey is High 8-C (4.5 tons) to Geralt's High 8-C+ (6.65 tons)"

I don't know how powerful is Peter's AP with the MK4, but I don't think is a 7 tier.

 

[The_Impress]

Any significant AP boost is 2x in the absolute least, so it's 9 tons approximately

 

[Apollodoro055]

In context of the stories he appears with Spider-Man, he is. Unless he literally is stated to be far weaker, we don't assume them to be considering they evenly match each other in physical terms

Someone said to me to be stick with the profiles of this site, and Taskmaster is officially an 9-A here.

 

[The_Impress]

Because he's officially rated to have a consistent rating around 9-A, not that he's 9-A in every story ever.

Read Power-scaling Rules for Marvel and DC Comics, for Marvel characters we acknowledge their overall ratings and put forth an average tier, it's not their tier-tier for all situations, as such in context of feats where there are two characters being shown comparable, it's absolutely fine to assume they scale to one another in context of the story itself.

 

[KLOL506]

Eh, that's about to change with the new calcs Spino is doing.

The higher 9-As might get bumped to 8-C.

 

[The_Impress]

Hopefully 8-C+ so it holds coherence

 

[KLOL506]

With you around, prolly never but one can hope, right?

 

[The_Impress]

meanie! i am just against above 9-A Daredevil tiers

 

[M3X_2.0]

Hope DD gets 8-C because he has a good tv series

 

[The_Impress]

But you fool! Daredevil currently wrecks in 9-A tier!

8-C Daredevil is contradictive IMO, his peak feats usually hold true at 9-A range, anything below that is explosion calcs, and we all know how consistent those are...

 

[Apollodoro055]

Hope DD gets 8-C because he has a good tv series

8-C fit better on people like Logan and Cap. I think DD is still good as 9-A.