Spiderman vs Geralt of Rivia

[SpookyShadow]

Wow I hate gimmick debates.

 

[The_Impress]

Wow I hate gimmick debates.

would you prefer MHA textwall debate pains over this

Anyways I'll take my leave for now, I'll continue this laterish

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Wow I hate gimmick debates.

would you prefer MHA textwall debate pains over this
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Would you rather prefer Psycho's BFDI threads in which all of the posts are just bumps or memes about how no one debates on them

 

[Apollodoro055]

Geralt can melt webs even using hits of Igni. Just sayn'..

 

[The_Impress]

It's totally not that webs are fireproof at all and resist melting

 

[KLOL506]

Wow I hate gimmick debates.

would you prefer MHA textwall debate pains over this </div>

definitely not that's for sure but Iron Man's still on the chopping block

Anyway, ATM I'mma put my Gwent money on Spidey mid-high diff due to Geralt's Quen being a pain in the ass, but with Spidey being smart enough to figure out how to get his Quen down for just one teeny-weeny moment Spidey just needs to land a few finishing blows or just web slam via tug of war. If Geralt had Class M lifting strength this'd be a different story but fortunately this day favors the Man of Spiders.

 

[Apollodoro055]

Wow I hate gimmick debates.

would you prefer MHA textwall debate pains over this </div>

definitely not that's for sure but Iron Man's still on the chopping block
Anyway, ATM I'mma put my Gwent money on Spidey mid-high diff due to Geralt's Quen being a pain in the ass, but with Spidey being smart enough to figure out how to get his Quen down for just one teeny-weeny moment Spidey just needs to land a few finishing blows or just web slam via tug of war. If Geralt had Class M lifting strength this'd be a different story but fortunately this day favors the Man of Spiders.

Are you implying Peter need just one hit to defeat Geralt.

 

[Apollodoro055]

We went from Geralt stomp to Peter stomp, and just because webs.. lol

 

[KLOL506]

It's totally not that webs are fireproof at all and resist melting

AFAIK Doc Ock made it bulletproof but nothing about it resisting heat was ever mentioned IIRC

 

[SpookyShadow]

This is probably the first Marvel discussion I've been into, is it often like that?

 

[Apollodoro055]

This is probably the first Marvel discussion I've been into, is it often like that?

Yes, especially if one of the two character involved is Spider-Man.

 

[Apollodoro055]

It's totally not that webs are fireproof at all and resist melting

AFAIK Doc Ock made it bulletproof but nothing about it resisting heat was ever mentioned IIRC

Igni can damage even steel, so, I think can melt webs easily

 

[KLOL506]

Are you implying Peter need just one hit to defeat Geralt.

Nope, Spidey's gonna have to chip-damage his way through due to slightly lower AP

Though the webs not being heat resistant puts a wrench into things

 

[Apollodoro055]

Are you implying Peter need just one hit to defeat Geralt.

Nope, Spidey's gonna have to chip-damage his way through due to slightly lower AP
Though the webs not being heat resistant puts a wrench into things

Probably Igni can't do much because his special armor here, if he was in his standard suit, Igni would definitely do extra damage. Aard and piercing cold is still a factor here, not to mantion Yrden, that can slow him down and do extra damage.

 

[Apollodoro055]

Are you implying Peter need just one hit to defeat Geralt.

Nope, Spidey's gonna have to chip-damage his way through due to slightly lower AP
Though the webs not being heat resistant puts a wrench into things

"but with Spidey being smart enough to figure out how to get his Quen down for just one teeny-weeny moment Spidey just needs to land a few finishing blows or just web slam via tug of war"

Yep but your words here sounds like that Peter need just few blows to end the fight.

 

[KLOL506]

A 1.5x AP advantage should require a good 10-15 blows but Spidey's gonna need to do so rapidly without stopping, something Geralt will simply not allow in close range combat.

 

[The_Impress]

I mean Spider-Man has pressure points

 

[Apollodoro055]

Do you ever thought that, even if Peter is able to hit Geralt with webs (I mean, even with the same speed and Quen, is still possible) he can melt them with Igni? I think it's a possibility, unless we want to implying that Peter's webs, somehow, can "oneshot" Geralt.

 

[SpookyShadow]

I mean Spider-Man has pressure points

Would they work through steel armor though?

 

[Apollodoro055]

A 1.5x AP advantage should require a good 10-15 blows but Spidey's gonna need to do so rapidly without stopping, something Geralt will simply not allow in close range combat.

Yeah, if Peter want to put him down, he have to close the distance, that's why he can't camping for hours with webs as was said before, Geralt in that scenario can dodge webs and use Quen and Igni, so, it's a useless tactic here. At close range, with the same speed, is a good match.

 

[ShivaShakti]

Aren't webs also a limited resource?

 

[Apollodoro055]

A 1.5x AP advantage should require a good 10-15 blows but Spidey's gonna need to do so rapidly without stopping, something Geralt will simply not allow in close range combat.

How many blows Geralt need to put Peter down?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

A 1.5x AP advantage should require a good 10-15 blows but Spidey's gonna need to do so rapidly without stopping, something Geralt will simply not allow in close range combat.

How many blows Geralt need to put Peter down?

Actually, with his potions Geralt has a 1.5X AP.

So with those I should say 15 blows

 

[Apollodoro055]

They're pretty much equal in AP.

 

[The_Impress]

They can oneshot Geralt in the sense that unless he can Igni while being entangled entirely, it's pretty much doneso with two webshots.

Also does he wear armor around his neck? And he can just rip off the armor with his surface scaling stuff i.e. Mark of Kaine it off

 

[Apollodoro055]

To simply put, Geralt have Igni and Quen to nullify webs, the fight will be at close range, eventually. Peter doesn't have nothing to break Quen or do something against Yrden, a magic trap that he can't dodge. Yrden is useless just if a character have a magic immunity. So, hard fight for sure, but, while Geralt have something to nullify webs, the biggest Peter's advantage here, Peter have nothing to nullify Geralt's advantages.

Geralt 6/10

 

[SpookyShadow]

He can use Igni while being restrained

 

[Apollodoro055]

He can use Igni while being restrained

Absolutely

 

[SpookyShadow]

It just takes a finger swing to cast Igni sign

 

[The_Impress]

I mean webs are not the biggest advantage, they're just "end match early" button. Precog and far better hand to hand are, I think Spider-Man resist most of the stuff in Geralt's arsenal anyhow. Hell Spider-Man does fight without webs alot too and does fine, they're mostly used for mobility anyhow in comparable beings term.

So yeah Spider-Man absolutely ***** in H2H, and can't be hit by anything unless it's like, Danmaku or Huge AoE. He can close the mid range gap with webs due to higher mobility, has Afterimages to disorient massively

Mk. 4 grants him explosions, ice manip, electrical defenses to stop melee, shoot acid webs and strength amping (safe bet is like 2x at best), so his own range stuff isn't garbage, he has AoE on him and yes, no longer AP gap because it's higher than his base by a significant margin

Also can I mention that web shooting speed won't be equalized because projectiles aren't equalized, so unless Geralt was straight up expecting Spider-Man to shoot web he won't be able to react in time to get it up, since it's a massively simple gesture otherwise

 

[SpookyShadow]

Geralt is a swordsman, not really a big martial artist though he knows how to use his limbs unarmed really well.

 

[The_Impress]

Spider-Man can fight Taskmaster i.e. Mr. Steal-yo-moves and has trained with Shang-Chi, master of Kung Fu who soles an entire amped ninja dojo and Valhallan army by himself. I doubt Geralt can compare to be frank.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Still he's a swordsman.

Afterimages are useless due to Geralt's senses

 

[The_Impress]

Swordsman means less... Taskmaster is a swordsman.

K, there are still 5 other points I mentioned, but k. Tho why exactly? Does he have faster sight than his own reactions or something?

 

[SpookyShadow]

Depends on what his swordsmanship feats are like.

Nah, mainly meant the fact that he has extremely enhanced hearing and smell, and monsters like Noonwraith already use pseudo-afterimages.

Anyway, I'm not interested in this debate much, maybe someone is going to continue.

 

[Apollodoro055]

Too many assumptions here, the main things were already said multiple times, I think everyone can pick his favourite character for the win. I'm done here.

 

[The_Impress]

Taskmaster's swordsman skills comparable to Wolverine's, who can take out 8 trained samuraus blindfolded, and fight comparably to Silver Samurai, the legendary swordmaster of Japan.

That's not really helpful... the Noonwraith thing maybe, otherwise no, that doesn't prove much.

K, sorry if I was annoying, just y'know, a long day.

Anyways for my reasons above, I vote Spider-Man.

 

[KLOL506]

Yeah, H2H combat was always Spider-Man's main thing and Geralt isn't exactly as skilled as the likes of Wolvie and Shang-Chi in those regards.

Anyway, Spidey for Zark's reasons and for my reasons.

 

[ShivaShakti]

Wait hold up.

Spidey is skilled enough to hang with Taskmaster, AKA a guy with arguably more broken Info Analysis / Move still then Ikki, and has Analytical Prediction so good he can tag a guy with precog?

Skill stomp?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Wait hold up.

Spidey is skilled enough to hang with Taskmaster, AKA a guy with arguably more broken Info Analysis / Move still then Ikki, and has Analytical Prediction so good he can tag a guy with precog?

Skill stomp?

Yeah, he ends up fighting and if not beating Taskmaster then almost doing it or Stalemating him in a lot of continuities.