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Spider-Man vs Izuku Midoriya 11-9-0
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in character, willing to kill. but this is to incap. Deku has training to incap, being in his 2nd year of pro hero school. He also has tons of experience over spoodermanPeter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
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given that they start at spidey range of hundreds of meters( iirc sba right) , i think spidey take this easily .
spidey have a tendency to hold back and especially in this case because deku is a kid but i think he would incapp with web way before deku can even reach him , let alone hit him.
spidey have a tendency to hold back and especially in this case because deku is a kid but i think he would incapp with web way before deku can even reach him , let alone hit him.
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yrs , sorry , if i wasn't clear, i vote for spidey
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I don't get the reasoning here. Because Spidey has more range with webs he wins easily? Did you ignore the rest of the thread? Deku disrupts the webs with shockwaves, dodges them, and uses them against Spider-Man himself to incapacitate him. Peter also fights in close combat, and it's not like he knows how Deku fights, so why would he just hang back and spam webs, especially if they're not effective? Also, do you think Deku is just going to stand still while Peter shoots webs at him? He has enough mobility to close that gap without getting webbed, and keep up with Spider-Man should he try to widen it.
Also, you didn't even address all the other numerous reasons me and Kappa gave for why Deku takes this, how does starting range alone equate to a win, let alone an easy one?
Also, you didn't even address all the other numerous reasons me and Kappa gave for why Deku takes this, how does starting range alone equate to a win, let alone an easy one?
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Is Deku able to use Detroit Smash shockwaves without breaking his fingers? If he isn't then Spidey can just Spider Sense then and dodge them.
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Uhh
Spiderman one shots Deku due to his durability?
Spiderman one shots Deku due to his durability?
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Yes, his standard equiptment includes his concussive gloves which remove the damage to his handaChocomilkAlex said:
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please forgive my ignorance but is the difference between "High 8-C" and "at least High 8-C" is that huge ?Schnee One said:
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Depends
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please forgive my ignorance but is the difference between "High 8-C" and "at least High 8-C" is that huge ?
No, you're not wrong, it's just Deku has 8C Durability
No, you're not wrong, it's just Deku has 8C Durability
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No it's justSchnee One said:
Deku has 8C Durability
ho... well then i guess spidey do one shot .
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Excuse me? Deku has High 8-C durability at 20%, did you read his profile?
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Yeah his physical Dura does not scale to High 8C in 20%
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We specified earlier in the thread that parker does not have the iron spider suit.Schnee One said:
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Are you sure?Bob899999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 said:
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? Yes it does? It says so right on his profile? Why on earth would it not scale? There was a whole thread on how increasing his percentage of One For All DOES make his durability higher. There's even reasoning for it with his arm being able to survive the clash with Muscular, who is 8-B.
What is your reasoning for it not?
What is your reasoning for it not?
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My reasoning is anything that isn't 20% means Izuku gets hit once and Spidey calls it a day, Izuku cannot stay in 20% forever, and he's nowhere near as agile as Spidey.
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im an idiot, when i posted the ¨try rereading the last line of the op.¨ thing the last line of the op was: ¨(speed equalized, 20% midorya, iron spider spiderman.)¨ but then i edited it because i forgot the votes. so just to clarify this is iron spider suit spidey. that is entirley on me and i apologise for any confusion.Kappatalism said:
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Hes fought someone who can move like spiderman and had matter/wtomic manip on top of that. Mido can stay isolate parta of his body to take anything peter can hit him with. Spider gets negged by shockwaves. Peter cant come close anyway. Since its speed equalized, and peters body is much smaller than the shockwaves deku makes, its cery heavily in midos favor. He can sit still and fire these off with a greatwr range than spooderman can hit him with damage woise.Schnee One said:
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Who? Gentle Criminal? The guy who Spiderman is wat stronger then?
The Shockwaves being large makes them predicable and dodgeable, plus Shockwaves don't do much damage anyway so they hardly matter.
The Shockwaves being large makes them predicable and dodgeable, plus Shockwaves don't do much damage anyway so they hardly matter.
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His shockwaves have similar/equal damage to his striking ability. Also, peters durability feat with thanos was not a striking feat. He just pushed him on the ground and ignored him. Where is the feat of him taking a missle? His shockwaves are larger than peters body, so at close range he cannot dodge them.Schnee One said:
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Yes, Deku is as agile as Spider-Man, and nothing Peter has is new to him enough to make a difference. Earlier in this thread, we mentioned Sero, Deku's classmate, who uses movement exactly like Spider-Man, and Deku completely outclassed him in agility. Not to mention Deku has several feats of agility and mobility that definitely put him on the same playing field as Spidey, especially the MCU version that doesn't have nearly as much experience fighting super powered beings as most other Spider-Men do.
What can Spidey do that keeps Deku off of him, honestly? Webs argument has been addressed, speed is equal, and both of these characters use buildings to their advantage when it comes to mobility. Deku literally ping pongs off buildings, and can think up entire plans in between jumps, while also using air bullets, but you're saying Spider-Man would be able to play keep away long enough to time him out? Especially when he's going to be rushing to finish this because he's at 20%? I don't see it. If anything, Spider-Man getting away from Deku just gives him time to recuperate and use 20% for even longer, and Deku could fight for hours many arcs ago.
Also, what is Spider-Man's AP? The only potency listed is that his suit should output more energy than 10 Giga joules, but I'm having a hard time translating it into terms of Deku's Dura which, at 8%, would be much higher than 1.28 tons of tnt. Would appreciate clarification on that, as your argument of Spidey one shotting Deku depends on you proving the 7.5x gap needed to one shot.
What can Spidey do that keeps Deku off of him, honestly? Webs argument has been addressed, speed is equal, and both of these characters use buildings to their advantage when it comes to mobility. Deku literally ping pongs off buildings, and can think up entire plans in between jumps, while also using air bullets, but you're saying Spider-Man would be able to play keep away long enough to time him out? Especially when he's going to be rushing to finish this because he's at 20%? I don't see it. If anything, Spider-Man getting away from Deku just gives him time to recuperate and use 20% for even longer, and Deku could fight for hours many arcs ago.
Also, what is Spider-Man's AP? The only potency listed is that his suit should output more energy than 10 Giga joules, but I'm having a hard time translating it into terms of Deku's Dura which, at 8%, would be much higher than 1.28 tons of tnt. Would appreciate clarification on that, as your argument of Spidey one shotting Deku depends on you proving the 7.5x gap needed to one shot.
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Also, the Gentle Criminal being weaker than Spider-Man is irrelevant, as your point is that he outpaces and outmaneuvers Deku. If the Gentle Criminal has comparable mobility to Spider-Man, but Deku could keep up with and overcome it, even using his own power against him, than Kappa's argument is very valid.
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I was referring to both overhaul and gentle criminal.
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My vote goes to Deku because Spider-Man was kicked out of the MCU.
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it's funny tho
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