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(ps I do want to add Luke cage or a non amped she hulk isn’t stronger than Spider-Man and the thing. Spider-Man has better lifting feats and general strength feats as does the thing) he beats a carnage amped silver surfer
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Spider-Man is as strong as the thing
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(ps I do want to add Luke cage or a non amped she hulk isn’t stronger than Spider-Man and the thing. Spider-Man has better lifting feats and general strength feats as does the thing) he beats a carnage amped silver surfer
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The Thing you mean the Fantastic Four one? He has a lot of Planet level feats, consistently trade blows with Hulk and such characters.
I remember a fight between Spider-Man and The Thing, Spidey was amped and the max he could do was stagger him.
I agree that he’s stronger than what we currently rate him, but the comics make it clear that they’re from two different level of power
I remember a fight between Spider-Man and The Thing, Spidey was amped and the max he could do was stagger him.
I agree that he’s stronger than what we currently rate him, but the comics make it clear that they’re from two different level of power
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Actually in the fight the thing was amped not Spider-Man but if you have a discord I would love to discuss this and prove to you otherwise in more detail
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Haven't read this comics, but if legitimate, this is most likely an outlier/Plot-Induced Stupidity. Plus, we have rules for scaling to characters like Silver Surfer
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Given the rules regarding powerscaling for Marvel Comics, I severely doubt that Planet level Spider-Man is gonna get accepted, unless he has his own non-powerscaling feats on that level
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Disagree. Never as strong as The Thing but he is stronger than before. Or else Miles, Rhino, Goblin and All street level marvel characters to Thing Tier
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There aren’t any sources or references in the OP, and those are required for a Marvel CRT.
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Like I said I would love to talk you guys on discord about it and prove you wrong but Spider-Man isn’t a street tier he is on the same tier as the thing
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We discuss stuff here not on Discord.
Spidey was amped, not Thing.
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I remember are alot of instances where spider-man fights characters like titania, the thing, juggernaut, I dont know the context of the fights but I know it happens quite a bit, even some of his rogues do it from time to time, but majority of the time he used his agility manuverability to overcome them and is genrally treated as weaker. he is strong, but not that level of strong. but he does fight against them alot, could it be possible to use their more casual feats and scale pete to that, saying something like "Able to hold his own against X Although is generally treated as weaker than them". these sort of fights do happen alot and he uses alot more strategy against them rather than just punching, but is still shows to have strength as to not just get instantly completely steamrolled, most the time. so maybe? idk. I personally think he is on/relative to their level at his absolute best but the wikis more than likely not gonna accept that.
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Can I see the comic you were talking about because I can bet you he wasn’t
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Afaik Spider-Man is depicted as much weaker than characters of this caliber more often than not, to the point of being unable to harm them at all.
Since this would screw up the scaling for much weaker characters (Kraven, Tombstone, Hammerhead, ect) I'd personally be against upgrading him to those levels.
Since this would screw up the scaling for much weaker characters (Kraven, Tombstone, Hammerhead, ect) I'd personally be against upgrading him to those levels.
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This the problem with in Marvel and Dc. Anyone can fight anyone and do anything. Like the time Karate kid of Dc comics was 2-C for fighting Pre crisis Kryptonians
He is generally lower than Thing's level Character anything more than that is an outlier.
There is something I want to suggest about Marvel and Dc, a character can't be upgraded unless if they have feat (s) on that level along with consistent proofs of fight Characters on that level or if the character has consistent proofs or statements.
He is generally lower than Thing's level Character anything more than that is an outlier.
There is something I want to suggest about Marvel and Dc, a character can't be upgraded unless if they have feat (s) on that level along with consistent proofs of fight Characters on that level or if the character has consistent proofs or statements.
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That's why we have a whole page dedicated to the rules for powerscaling Marvel and DC Comics
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That’s not totally true because he does hurt him in the comic
Their was also this comic where Spider-Man breaks out of the grip of a creature as strong as the thing.he also knocked the thing out(here is rhino matching strength with thing too ) their is also this Spider-Man strength feat better than the one you showed with the
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Tfw we need a page to advice people to use their common sense and not wank.
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Exactly my point
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He does which is why I am bringing this up h I it’s hard to communicate on vs battle but I can tell you guys would hear me out which I appreciate I have tons of Spider-Man feats where he isn’t amped to prove it discord is a lot easier for me to communicate bambu was the one who actually helped me calculate a couple most of the things lifting feats and they were all lower than Spider-Man daily bugle feat
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I don’t think the thing is planet level and definitely not Spider-Man anyone below regular hulk and Thor aren’t planet level
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Im not trying to wank just showing how Spider-Man is since he has tons of feats to prove itExactly my point
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Mate, everyone here read comics. I at least read comics whenever I can, when I have free time. I read Spider-Man, most people here do too. You're not the one with Spider-Man feats.
Spider-Man is a street level character, who mostly deals with super-human beings such as Green Goblin, Rhino and Lizard. The later being consistently stronger than him. He gets hurt by explosions, some street levels such as Wolverine or Cap can harm him.
There NO WAY Spider-Man is stronger than The Thing and this is obviously something that won't be accepted. The Thing is accepted here as Planet level because he has feats and is on this level most of the times.
@KingTempest feel free to close this whenever you feel like.
Spider-Man is a street level character, who mostly deals with super-human beings such as Green Goblin, Rhino and Lizard. The later being consistently stronger than him. He gets hurt by explosions, some street levels such as Wolverine or Cap can harm him.
There NO WAY Spider-Man is stronger than The Thing and this is obviously something that won't be accepted. The Thing is accepted here as Planet level because he has feats and is on this level most of the times.
@KingTempest feel free to close this whenever you feel like.
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Punching someone isn't the same as hurting them. None of these Hulk scans show Hulk getting HARMED by Spider-Man. And even that's not enough if Spidey isn't outright trading blows, going toe-to-toe with and taking genuine hits from Hulk.That’s not totally true because he does hurt him in the comic
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